some one gave me an movie set.. they were terrible and not worth the effort to watch.. Yuck Allan
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:44 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Python flopped when first released here. Two and a half men and > Friends are torture. The Harvard Business Review is, indeed, a joke > Gabby. > > On Nov 27, 9:18 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >> What is the kind of humour you would be paying for? >> >> Here they are asking for >> suggestions:http://hbr.org/web/slideshows/cartoon/1212/4-slide >> >> 2012/11/27 Allan H <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I agree what little comedy I have heard I actually find quite boring >> > so I never watch it and sure as heck would not pay to see it, >> > Allan >> >> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > I don't laugh much at popular comedy. It doesn't seem to get past >> > childish >> > > bathroom humor. But find humor invaluable to life and relationship. Even >> > > deconstructive humor brings us to the place where we find what is of real >> > > value. But it isn't cruel. Getting past the barbed humor, or what is >> > being >> > > passed as humor but is really meant to insult or injure is simply >> > passing up >> > > baloney for filet mignon. Monty Python never fails to amuse, as it shows >> > the >> > > timeless human condition in a humorous light. >> >> > > On Monday, November 26, 2012 9:45:36 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >> >> > >> Not seen Chris or Charles Don. Hicks, a few derivative references >> > >> apart, could have been a Brit. Our cultures are probably less far >> > >> apart than such matters as the absence of footpaths in the States. >> > >> Our serious comedy is mostly political satire from Yes Minister to The >> > >> Thick of It. What I was wondering was whether any one else feels more >> > >> general film and literature has gone Tragic and plots and characters >> > >> less and less comedic in the old Greek sense. Our old sitcoms like >> > >> Dads' Army, Steptoe and Son and plenty of others had a great element >> > >> of 'daft people like me and you caught in a plight and muddling >> > >> through'. Bilko and Top Cat had this too. A fairly recent French >> > >> fil,m Mario et Jeanette had this. >> >> > >> On 27 Nov, 00:40, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > At other levels I think we should be ridiculing such matters as the >> > >> > > absence of disabled people in politically correct newsrooms and >> > such. >> >> > >> > What about Chris Mathews? budda bump bump >> >> > >> > Charles Krauthammer, in contrast, is a paraplegic but ok from the neck >> > >> > up. >> > >> > Most people don't even know about his disability because it's not >> > >> > relavent. >> > >> > We like his commentary. >> >> > >> > dj >> >> > >> > On Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:15:40 PM UTC-6, archytas wrote: >> >> > >> > > The Brits do more nob gags and used to pack theatres to see a guy >> > play >> > >> > > the trombone with ass-gas- needless to say a Frenchman. Audience >> > >> > > milking is central to some humour - this tends to put me off, but >> > some >> > >> > > are so good at it I don't notice until afterwards. US comedy films >> > >> > > are usually dross, but your stand-ups usually great. My recent >> > >> > > favourite is 'The Pope's Toilet' from Uruguay. The hero rides a >> > bike >> > >> > > everywhere and his wife describes him as lacking pump for a bicycle >> > >> > > man. Why do the French smell? So even the blind can hate them. >> > Why >> > >> > > would you find an Irishman in the Alps? Where else would you find a >> > >> > > downhill lake. Irish jokes are Belgian, Polish and Swedish etc. >> >> > >> > > At other levels I think we should be ridiculing such matters as the >> > >> > > absence of disabled people in politically correct newsrooms and >> > such. >> >> > >> > > On 24 Nov, 21:46, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > Over here, social workers have taken kids off foster parents >> > because >> > >> > > > of their membership of UKIP - a party that shares the desire of >> > 65% >> > >> > > > of >> > >> > > > the population to leave the EU and restrict immigration. You have >> > >> > > > to >> > >> > > > laugh - or cry! >> >> > >> > > > On 24 Nov, 21:38, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > Morecambe and Wise with Mum and Dad at Xmas perhaps. Laurel and >> > >> > > > > Hardy. Many other popular comedians are more likely to make me >> > >> > > > > weep. >> > >> > > > > I never liked Chaplin (actually thinking Hitler more of a >> > comedian >> > >> > > > > than 'The Dictator') and we had Cannon and Ball here who hit a >> > >> > > > > nerve I >> > >> > > > > don't like. I can laugh with some of the ostensibly more >> > >> > > > > vicious >> > >> > > > > types like Bill Hicks and Frankie Boyle. Police and army >> > culture >> > >> > > > > reveres tough, sadistic humour with self-depreciation thrown in. >> >> > >> > > > > I'm against speech crime but it's also clear not everything >> > goes. >> > >> > > > > I >> > >> > > > > don't agree with the Greek split - it's from Stanford EP - >> > >> > > > > suspecting >> > >> > > > > humour is closely linked with breakthrough thinking (though not >> > >> > > > > the >> > >> > > > > same) and unseating the biological trance of hierarchy (The Name >> > >> > > > > of >> > >> > > > > the Rose). >> >> > >> > > > > The SEP article concludes: >> >> > >> > > > > Along with the idealism of tragedy goes elitism. The people who >> > >> > > > > matter >> > >> > > > > in tragedy are kings, queens, and generals. In comedy there are >> > >> > > > > more >> > >> > > > > characters and more kinds of characters, women are more >> > prominent, >> > >> > > > > and >> > >> > > > > many protagonists come from lower classes. Everybody counts for >> > >> > > > > one. >> > >> > > > > That shows in the language of comedy, which, unlike the elevated >> > >> > > > > language of tragedy, is common speech. The basic unit in tragedy >> > >> > > > > is >> > >> > > > > the individual, in comedy it is the family, group of friends, or >> > >> > > > > bunch >> > >> > > > > of co-workers. >> >> > >> > > > > While tragic heroes are emotionally engaged with their problems, >> > >> > > > > comic >> > >> > > > > protagonists show emotional disengagement. They think, rather >> > than >> > >> > > > > feel, their way through difficulties. By presenting such >> > >> > > > > characters as >> > >> > > > > role models, comedy has implicitly valorized the benefits of >> > humor >> > >> > > > > that are now being empirically verified, such as that it is >> > >> > > > > psychologically and physically healthy, it fosters mental >> > >> > > > > flexibility, >> > >> > > > > and it serves as a social lubricant. With a few exceptions like >> > >> > > > > Aquinas, philosophers have ignored these benefits. >> >> > >> > > > > If philosophers wanted to undo the traditional prejudices >> > against >> > >> > > > > humor, they might consider the affinities between one >> > contemporary >> > >> > > > > genre of comedy—standup comedy—and philosophy itself. There are >> > at >> > >> > > > > least seven. First, standup comedy and philosophy are >> > >> > > > > conversational: >> > >> > > > > like the dialogue format that started with Plato, standup >> > routines >> > >> > > > > are >> > >> > > > > interactive. Second, both reflect on familiar experiences, >> > >> > > > > especially >> > >> > > > > puzzling ones. We wake from a vivid dream, for example, not sure >> > >> > > > > what >> > >> > > > > has happened and what is happening. Third, like philosophers, >> > >> > > > > standup >> > >> > > > > comics often approach puzzling experiences with questions. “If I >> > >> > > > > thought that dream was real, how do I know that I'm not dreaming >> > >> > > > > right >> > >> > > > > now?” The most basic starting point in both philosophy and >> > standup >> > >> > > > > comedy is “X—what's up with that?” Fourth, as they think about >> > >> > > > > familiar experiences, both philosophers and comics step back >> > >> > > > > emotionally from them. Henri Bergson (1911 [1900]) spoke of the >> > >> > > > > “momentary anaesthesia of the heart” in laughter. Emotional >> > >> > > > > disengagement long ago became a meaning of >> > >> > > > > “philosophical”—“rational, >> > >> > > > > sensibly composed, calm, as in a difficult situation.” Fifth, >> > >> > > > > philosophers and standup comics think critically. They ask >> > whether >> > >> > > > > familiar ideas make sense, and they refuse to defer to authority >> > >> > > > > and >> > >> > > > > tradition. It was for his critical thinking that Socrates was >> > >> > > > > executed. So were cabaret comics in Germany who mocked the Third >> > >> > > > > Reich. Sixth, in thinking critically, philosophers and standup >> > >> > > > > comics >> > >> > > > > pay careful attention to language. Attacking sloppy and >> > illogical >> > >> > > > > uses >> > >> > > > > of words is standard in both, and so is finding exactly the >> > right >> > >> > > > > words to express an idea. Seventh, the pleasure of standup >> > comedy >> > >> > > > > is >> > >> > > > > often like the pleasure of doing philosophy. In both we relish >> > new >> > >> > > > > ways of looking at things and delight in surprising thoughts. >> > >> > > > > William >> > >> > > > > James (1979 [1911], 11) said that philosophy “sees the familiar >> > as >> > >> > > > > if >> > >> > > > > it were strange, and the strange as if it were familiar.” The >> > same >> > >> > > > > is >> > >> > > > > true of standup comedy. Simon Critchley has written that both >> > ask >> > >> > > > > us >> > >> > > > > to “look at things as if you had just landed from another >> > >> > > > > planet” (2002, 1). >> >> > >> > > > > One recent philosopher attuned to the affinity between comedy >> > and >> > >> > > > > philosophy was Bertrand Russell. “The point of philosophy,” he >> > >> > > > > said, >> > >> > > > > “is to start with something so simple as not to seem worth >> > >> > > > > stating, >> > >> > > > > and to end with something so paradoxical that no one will >> > believe >> > >> > > > > it” (1918, 53). In the middle of an argument, he once observed, >> > >> > > > > “This >> > >> > > > > seems plainly absurd: but whoever wishes to become a philosopher >> > >> > > > > must >> > >> > > > > learn not to be frightened by absurdities” (2008 [1912], 17). >> >> > >> > > > > I laughed a lot >> >> ... >> >> read more » > > -- > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. I am a Natural Airgunner - Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. --
