Heh except of course that when it comes right down to it.energy is matter and matter is energy. On Friday, 30 November 2012 11:22:14 UTC, andrew vecsey wrote: > > The paradoxical dilemma of who created the creator can be circumnavigated > by the possibility that the original creator was not matter, but energy. > Just like thinking of anything is much faster and much easier than building > it, it becomes conceivable that energy patterns could have evolved in a > random chance way and finely tuned by selective processes to reach > intelligence similar to how most scientists believe that patterns of atoms > and molecules evolved to form intelligent life. > > Energy patterns could have evolved to a point that they manipulated atoms > to desired patterns and forms to code the information required for life and > to allow them to evolve on their own to complex intelligent beings able to > wonder at and eventually to solve the riddle of where they came from, where > they are going and why they are alive. Meaning and purpose could then be > given to our fleeting moment of existence. > > > On Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:55:05 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >> >> ....... All we have in respect of this is to posit >> creation, begging the question of what created that in an infinite >> regress. .....We might get to an intelligent state in which creation >> myths are replaced by something more plausible and Truth comes closer. >> >> On 29 Nov, 01:41, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Neil , even after re-transposition how long could the brain live >> > --1000 years , 10000years or maybe as long as the universe ,but >> > ultimately it will die or be destroyed at the end - time of the >> > universe. What survives is the Truth behind life and nothing else. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:33 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > What survives is the gene - subject to mutations etc. We are already >> > > 'Borg' in the sense of mass assimilation. One's mind could be >> > > transposed to another substrate (nearish future) - our bodies are >> > > currently replaced every 5 years or so- and the new substrate could >> > > have nanobots that would allow minds to outlive Lee's 'hope'. Such >> > > substrated minds might link in super-intelligence and be able to re- >> > > transfer into more human-like bodies they learned to make. This >> would >> > > be a time beyond singularity. We don't know what such intelligence >> > > might invent or even discover - perhaps such intelligence would >> > > discover we are not as alone as we think. Being human or human being >> > > might be as irrelevant as a mitochondria wanting to live free again. >> > > We might be free of the tiny machines (genes) so much part of our >> > > behaviour now. >> > >> > > On 28 Nov, 14:40, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> T9 grrrrrrr >> > >> Allan >> > >> > >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light >> > >> On Nov 28, 2012 11:38 AM, "gabbydott" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Ah! That's the extended version of 'possibly maybe' then (my >> grammar and >> > >> > spelling checker suggests 10 instead of 'then' though)! :) >> > >> > >> > 2012/11/28 James <[email protected]> >> > >> > >> >> I am an aspect of what was, is, and will be, coextensively. >> Maybe. >> > >> > >> >> On 11/27/2012 2:28 AM, RP Singh wrote: >> > >> > >> >>> Attachment to life is the cause of the desire for immortality >> and the >> > >> >>> readiness to believe in an after-life or re-birth. It is an >> off-shoot of >> > >> >>> the instinct for survival. >> > >> > >> >>> -- >> > >> > >> >> -- >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > > -- >> >
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