Since this is somewhat on topic has anyone ran across a modern rendition
of the universe speculating our position and the layout? Every time I
look there are irritating answers around such as "there is no center"
and such, never seen a satisfactory attempt at an answer for our
position within the universe (say, as one find it within galactic
clusters, solar systems, etc). A graphic would be really nice, please
share if you've seen one!
On 11/30/2012 1:32 PM, andrew vecsey wrote:
Lee, I can see where all matter has to have an energy component to it
because matter is manifested as atoms which have motion in them. But I
could also envision pure motion without involving any atoms...like a
vibration in the fabric of space,
On Friday, November 30, 2012 5:53:26 PM UTC+1, Lee Douglas wrote:
Heh except of course that when it comes right down to it.energy is
matter and matter is energy.
On Friday, 30 November 2012 11:22:14 UTC, andrew vecsey wrote:
The paradoxical dilemma of who created the creator can be
circumnavigated by the possibility that the original creator was
not matter, but energy. Just like thinking of anything is much
faster and much easier than building it, it becomes conceivable
that energy patterns could have evolved in a random chance way
and finely tuned by selective processes to reach intelligence
similar to how most scientists believe that patterns of atoms
and molecules evolved to form intelligent life.
Energy patterns could have evolved to a point that they
manipulated atoms to desired patterns and forms to code the
information required for life and to allow them to evolve on
their own to complex intelligent beings able to wonder at and
eventually to solve the riddle of where they came from, where
they are going and why they are alive. Meaning and purpose could
then be given to our fleeting moment of existence.
On Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:55:05 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
....... All we have in respect of this is to posit
creation, begging the question of what created that in an
infinite
regress. .....We might get to an intelligent state in which
creation
myths are replaced by something more plausible and Truth
comes closer.
On 29 Nov, 01:41, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Neil , even after re-transposition how long could the
brain live
> --1000 years , 10000years or maybe as long as the
universe ,but
> ultimately it will die or be destroyed at the end - time
of the
> universe. What survives is the Truth behind life and
nothing else.
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> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:33 AM, archytas
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > What survives is the gene - subject to mutations etc.
We are already
> > 'Borg' in the sense of mass assimilation. One's mind
could be
> > transposed to another substrate (nearish future) - our
bodies are
> > currently replaced every 5 years or so- and the new
substrate could
> > have nanobots that would allow minds to outlive Lee's
'hope'. Such
> > substrated minds might link in super-intelligence and
be able to re-
> > transfer into more human-like bodies they learned to
make. This would
> > be a time beyond singularity. We don't know what such
intelligence
> > might invent or even discover - perhaps such
intelligence would
> > discover we are not as alone as we think. Being human
or human being
> > might be as irrelevant as a mitochondria wanting to
live free again.
> > We might be free of the tiny machines (genes) so much
part of our
> > behaviour now.
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> > On 28 Nov, 14:40, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> T9 grrrrrrr
> >> Allan
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> >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light
> >> On Nov 28, 2012 11:38 AM, "gabbydott"
<[email protected]> wrote:
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> >> > Ah! That's the extended version of 'possibly maybe'
then (my grammar and
> >> > spelling checker suggests 10 instead of 'then'
though)! :)
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> >> > 2012/11/28 James <[email protected]>
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> >> >> I am an aspect of what was, is, and will be,
coextensively. Maybe.
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> >> >> On 11/27/2012 2:28 AM, RP Singh wrote:
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> >> >>> Attachment to life is the cause of the desire for
immortality and the
> >> >>> readiness to believe in an after-life or re-birth.
It is an off-shoot of
> >> >>> the instinct for survival.
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