Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble perhaps James? I have lived in sexist societies - our term at the time was homosocial. Dire, except in learning how they got round the rules. But the topics I found in books and papers never quite seemed women's issues - at least not the stuff that bothered Mum, my sister and cousins and later the mature students I taught. I agree with Allan - so I'm off to have me old head tested!
On 3 Dec, 05:02, James <[email protected]> wrote: > We should train dogs to be managers, the one in A Boy and His Dog had a > leg up on everyone. Our pup gave me a look the other day that made me > wonder, did he just tell me 'better to keep your mouth shut', or was it > my imagination? Heh, I get the feeling that my elders are testing me > when complaining about women (especially the older). I wonder if > characters like John Wayne in The Quiet Man and the previously mentioned > one were more an attempt at making humor than guidance in any form. > > I'm leaning toward your take Allan, many of the complaints I've heard > are self-reinforcing. But then liberal education can have a sinister > effect in blanketing novel perceptions with institutional pedagogy and > producing naive idealism. Something a few members here have said in > better words I think. Some have said that we have no real comprehension > of an egalitarian or meritocratic society in America beyond a book > definition, I say if this is true the answer would be found in > generational and class discontinuity, our isolationist tendencies that > promote either self-reinforcing over-generalizations or reactionary > hypersensitivity and puritanical poo. Despite everything (a long word), > from my earliest memory until today the strongest person I've ever known > is a woman. What a frustrating topic, we all have strengths and > weaknesses, even the strongest. > > On 12/2/2012 4:01 AM, Allan H wrote: > > > > > > > > > my problem is other than child birth (brat hatchen) I really do see > > much difference between the genders, I think a well developed > > personality contains all of the personality traits. > > Allan > > > Now now calm down... > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 3:16 AM, archytas<[email protected]> wrote: > >> My next questions are on what gender issues hide. But really this is > >> just a path to people I teach choosing their own paths. It's very > >> hard not to be directive and I usually suggest the philosophic muck > >> means less to me than one word in personal insurrection. I might ask, > >> in the right company, 'what the little women have to say'. One has to > >> take the risk somewhere to break the supplication of academic > >> discipline. > > >> On 1 Dec, 17:01, gabbydott<[email protected]> wrote: > >>> That question is settled then. What's the next? > > >>> 2012/12/1 archytas<[email protected]> > > >>>> The Body > >>>> Class and Work > >>>> Disability > >>>> Discrimination > >>>> Equality of Opportunity > >>>> Identity Politics > >>>> Multiculturalism > >>>> Objectification > >>>> Parenthood and Procreation > >>>> Power > >>>> Race > >>>> Rape > >>>> Reproduction and the Family > >>>> Science > >>>> The Self > >>>> Sex and Gender > >>>> Sex Markets > >>>> Trans Issues > > >>>> These are just some of the topics I thought I could put forward in > >>>> teaching gender issues in management. They underlie the bland > >>>> politically correct policy matters. One thing has always occurred to > >>>> me as missing in every debate I can remember. Women are as bad as men > >>>> as managers. I equate equality with hospitality (always two-sided at > >>>> least) and suspect we don't realise behaviour is much less to do with > >>>> gender or the individual than we think and perhaps has little to do > >>>> with rationality. I don't think we see the wood for the trees on > >>>> gender. > > >>>> -- > > >> -- --
