It reminded me of some Asian horticulture, I've been thinking about mountain a bit myself lately. In western US we have sea-water, then Cali, mountains and then a large arid area. I had heard nice resports about reversing desertification near Israel using greenhouse desalination and soil destabilisation. Haven't seen biochar in use myself but out west someone is trying genetically engineered/selected trees in sustainable forestry, birch I think. Regarding California and desalination I believe Arizona is low-lying (below sealevel) but greenhousing would be an expensive effort, but what has mostly occupied my mind is implementing thermal capture from all the pavement effectively. Lots of energy for the evaporating, someone will have to figure out a method, that question occupied most of my thoughts. Will wait to finish the vid before commenting overall but I had lots of what if type application ideas, a big one is sustainability: if it takes ten years to recapture the capital investment and keeps on going with little to no maintenance or energy while reversing negative ecological impacts and producing a steady little flow of produce that sounds like a winner to me!

On 12/3/2012 5:18 AM, Allan H wrote:
very interesting,,  people are not very smart about farming..  like a
lot of his ideas,, it is getting the most out of your resources
Resources and not wasting them is what a lot of farming is really about that.
Allan


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:45 AM, archytas<[email protected]>  wrote:
Allan - on another thread to do with water what about this -
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/12/sepp-holzer-aquaculture-synergy-of-land-and-water.html

On 3 Dec, 05:02, James<[email protected]>  wrote:
We should train dogs to be managers, the one in A Boy and His Dog had a
leg up on everyone. Our pup gave me a look the other day that made me
wonder, did he just tell me 'better to keep your mouth shut', or was it
my imagination? Heh, I get the feeling that my elders are testing me
when complaining about women (especially the older). I wonder if
characters like John Wayne in The Quiet Man and the previously mentioned
one were more an attempt at making humor than guidance in any form.

I'm leaning toward your take Allan, many of the complaints I've heard
are self-reinforcing. But then liberal education can have a sinister
effect in blanketing novel perceptions with institutional pedagogy and
producing naive idealism. Something a few members here have said in
better words I think. Some have said that we have no real comprehension
of an egalitarian or meritocratic society in America beyond a book
definition, I say if this is true the answer would be found in
generational and class discontinuity, our isolationist tendencies that
promote either self-reinforcing over-generalizations or reactionary
hypersensitivity and puritanical poo. Despite everything (a long word),
from my earliest memory until today the strongest person I've ever known
is a woman. What a frustrating topic, we all have strengths and
weaknesses, even the strongest.

On 12/2/2012 4:01 AM, Allan H wrote:







my problem is other than child birth (brat hatchen) I really do see
much difference between the genders, I think a well developed
personality contains all of the personality traits.
Allan

Now now  calm down...

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 3:16 AM, archytas<[email protected]>   wrote:
My next questions are on what gender issues hide.  But really this is
just a path to people I teach choosing their own paths.  It's very
hard not to be directive and I usually suggest the philosophic muck
means less to me than one word in personal insurrection.  I might ask,
in the right company, 'what the little women have to say'.  One has to
take the risk somewhere to break the supplication of academic
discipline.

On 1 Dec, 17:01, gabbydott<[email protected]>   wrote:
That question is settled then. What's the next?

2012/12/1 archytas<[email protected]>

The Body
Class and Work
Disability
Discrimination
Equality of Opportunity
Identity Politics
Multiculturalism
Objectification
Parenthood and Procreation
Power
Race
Rape
Reproduction and the Family
Science
The Self
Sex and Gender
Sex Markets
Trans Issues

These are just some of the topics I thought I could put forward in
teaching gender issues in management.  They underlie the bland
politically correct policy matters.  One thing has always occurred to
me as missing in every debate I can remember.  Women are as bad as men
as managers.  I equate equality with hospitality (always two-sided at
least) and suspect we don't realise behaviour is much less to do with
gender or the individual than we think and perhaps has little to do
with rationality.  I don't think we see the wood for the trees on
gender.

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