More or less my belief Allan - though small parochial groups still have problems.
On Feb 17, 9:06 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > The only real solution I see is small communities working for the > common good.. realistically you can develop some semblance of > financial clot.. unfortunately it needs to be family or some other > reason that it group remands in tact.. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:29 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't know if something called Modern Monetary Theory will pan out > > Allan - but in that it all starts with government money, central banks > > and favouring banksters with cheap money. I have no doubt this is > > true. The questions are really about how we break it all up without > > sticking ourselves with an inane bureaucracy that's worse. George > > Bush senior hung around in the shadows of BCCI, Neil Bush was around > > the thrifts scandal and the criminality is complex. What we don't > > know is how people would behave if we could break the crimogenic cycle > > and structure genuine freedom. > > > On Feb 16, 2:39 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You are right the corporate and free enterprise is the most fantastic > >> way of stealing and hiding money ever created is the total dream of > >> the greedy and selfish souls > > >> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:15 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Frauds do unravel - let loose on the banksters and Planet Ponzi with > >> > carte blanche the world we are likely to find is upside down. Fraud > >> > enquiries, even in my day, were about building a model of the network > >> > - 'who knows whom'? was always a major question. Now we can use > >> > algorithms to search huge databases of communication - but they often > >> > lead to matters held offshore. I claim 70% of my car against tax and > >> > the taxman could check my claim easily - big firms submit claims > >> > concerning offshore activities that cannot be checked - some companies > >> > already use servers in Panama to evade sequestration of emails and so > >> > on. That fraud is going on is obvious, from our military activities, > >> > looting whole economies (Argentina is probably the classic case since > >> > 1830 - (they were briefly 4th highest in per capita GDP and now > >> > bankrupt again) and the money system generally. We generally look the > >> > other way unless tough times come to us directly. Looking the other > >> > way is a first step towards Nazism. I would suggest we do many bad > >> > things in everyday banality. > > >> > On Feb 11, 8:27 am, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi Rigs, You seem to be a very positive thinking person. In the "Madness > >> >> and Sanity" discussion, you wrote "Eventually fraud and evil fail by > >> >> their > >> >> own undoing by some universal law or force." I hope by the same > >> >> reasoning, > >> >> goodness should eventually shine thru the badness that shades it so > >> >> well in > >> >> our everyday world. I wonder what that universal law of force is that > >> >> you > >> >> allude to. There are many analogies to this force in science and > >> >> religion. > >> >> Gravity, light, consciousness and love are some that come to mind. It > >> >> gives me hope. > > >> >> On Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:47:02 AM UTC+1, rigs wrote: > > >> >> > I think we act in self-interest and hopefully the spurs are positive > >> >> > and good- thus the rewards. > > >> >> > On Feb 8, 6:54 pm, James <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > I am sure there is a reasonable explanation for each of those > >> >> > > questions, > >> >> > > or to an example of each, but my answer to that would be lacking. > >> >> > > What > >> >> > > interests me now is that you and others ask such a question, the > >> >> > > only > >> >> > > response that comes to mind is that nature will always challenge us > >> >> > > and > >> >> > > we will be driven to overcome, because we are aware. It will eat at > >> >> > > us > >> >> > > until we do, and we are still here. > > >> >> > > On 2/5/2013 7:37 AM, andrew vecsey wrote: > > >> >> > > > Dear participants of this discussion. I have to admit that much > >> >> > > > of the > >> >> > > > things you discuss in this discussion are over my head. What I > >> >> > > > think > >> >> > > > I got from the discussion so far is that as far as "knowledge" is > >> >> > > > concerned, or a lack of it, or a distortion of it shows more > >> >> > > > negative > >> >> > > > aspects than positive ones. The other thing I got from the > >> >> > > > discussion > >> >> > > > is that politics has turned out more bad than good - thanks to > >> >> > > > greed. > >> >> > > > What about religion? Why is our concept of god so negative? Why > >> >> > > > have > >> >> > > > we pictured our gods as cruel and jealous and perverse? What > >> >> > > > about > >> >> > > > nature? Why does it seem perverse in the fact that the more we > >> >> > > > want > >> >> > > > something, the more it evades us? Why does time seem to slow down > >> >> > > > when > >> >> > > > we would rather it went by quickly? Why does time speed up when we > >> >> > > > want to relish a moment and wish time to slow down?. Why do many > >> >> > > > children show signs of cruelty to animals? Why is our history > >> >> > > > filled > >> >> > > > with unbelievable violence, especially to our fellow humans? Why > >> >> > > > does > >> >> > > > power corrupt? and greed prevail? Why is it that so many harmfull > >> >> > > > habits are addictive? Why is man so perverse? > > >> >> > > > On Monday, January 28, 2013 12:11:39 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey > >> >> > > > wrote: > > >> >> > > > Why do so many of us remember negative feelings easier than > >> >> > > > positive ones. Pain over pleasure. Bad news over good news. > >> >> > > > Why > >> >> > > > does "bad" overshadow "good", immorality over morality, > >> >> > > > despair > >> >> > > > over hope, pessimism over optimism. Why does hate appear to be > >> >> > > > more powerful than love? Why is greed louder than generosity. > >> >> > > > Why > >> >> > > > is destruction of war so much faster than the building power > >> >> > > > of > >> >> > > > peace. Why can one little lie destroy a lifetime of trust. > >> >> > > > Why are > >> >> > > > lies more influential than truth. It all seems so one sided. > >> >> > > > Why > >> >> > > > is that? > > >> >> > > > -- > > >> >> > > > --- > >> >> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> > > > Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > >> >> > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >> >> > > > send > >> >> > > > an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > >> >> > > > For more options, > >> >> > > > visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.-Hidequotedtext- > > >> >> > > - Show quoted text - > > >> > -- > > >> > --- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >> > an email to [email protected]. > >> > For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > >> -- > >> ( > >> ) > >> |_D Allan > > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > >> Of course I talk to myself, > >> Sometimes I need expert advice.. > > > -- > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected]. > > For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > Of course I talk to myself, > Sometimes I need expert advice.. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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