Allan mate - moving on means all of us, not further spleen at RP. These you were 'insulting first' things are best left in playground memories. If one gets far enough up Melanie Klein's view of Freud's 'Civilisation and its Discontents type stuff', nearly all of us operate from the paranoid-schizoid (bad) rather than depressive (good) position. If I sometimes think of Gabbs as a character in one of those tiresome German operas in which women with helmets are drowned in acorn storms whilst working for the Bureau of Cemetery Entertainment, I mean none of it. If you or I refer to each other as 'old cranks' it is surely only the mon vieux, ma choux or mon vielle Lapin of French currency and not 'old cabbaged Rabbit'. Socrates spoke of himself as a gadfly. We surely have a bit of the needle if we are to do more than chatter-gossip. Too many gadfly bites become a pain in the ass.
On Monday, 29 September 2014 07:47:56 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Sorry RP you did present a diagnosis. Directly attacking Pat. What started > out a a simple inquiry if any of his many friends had heard from him, you > turned into a direct verbal assault on his character and well being. > I too have helped out Pat personally because he was going through some > hard times. What he had his head around has taken me years to begin to > understand what he said. > From my work with the more unstable part of society is to listen to what > they have say especially about others. It is the quickest most accurate way > to understand a persons mental state. Sorry RP you gave away your mental > state via self diagnosis. Your previous writings leave doubt as to your > professional claims, if they actually do exist (doubtful) then you have > brought shame to the profession. > My personal opinion is best expressed by an old commercial saying. "Out > damn stop!" > Allan > Living Soul > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 2:47 AM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat > > I have not diagnosed someone's character , rather I have presented my > estimate about his behaviour pattern. It is not a judgement but an analysis > of abnormal behaviour. > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:46 AM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We are here to discuss ideas, RP, not the members characters. Attack on >> a members character, even if your opinion is in the form of a diagnosis, is >> clearly outlawed in the guidelines. Pat shared many interesting ideas in >> this group, and was appreciated by many of us. Where I come from, we call >> an attack on someones character who is not present backstabbing, and is, by >> any measure, as Mando points out, a breach of trust. Whether currently >> participating or not, we are not here to comment on people's character. If >> you have any comments on string theory, or any other facet of Pat's book, I >> suggest you move on to discussing his ideas and away from diagnosing his or >> anyone else's character. >> >> >> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:22:49 PM UTC-4, RP Singh wrote: >>> >>> I have diagnosed an abnormal behaviour and do not attempt to make >>> personality assessments of normal people. >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Richard Blay <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> So RP, Mr. psychologist, what are you going to write about Gabby if she >>>> goes out of communication based on her postings? ;) >>>> On Sep 28, 2014 10:45 PM, "Molly" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I reject your opinion and find it uninformed. >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:56:02 PM UTC-4, RP Singh wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Pat was a classical case of paranoid schizophrenia as revealed >>>>>> through his posts. In mental disorders , unlike physiological problems >>>>>> it >>>>>> is not absolutely necessary that you personally talk to the affected >>>>>> person. His disease can be definitely gleaned from his thoughts if they >>>>>> are >>>>>> clear enough , which in Pats case were quite transparent. As for the >>>>>> sub-types of schizophrenia , paranoid schizophrenia is quite unique >>>>>> because >>>>>> it involves paranoid thinking as well. No disrespect is intended towards >>>>>> Pat , a disease is a disease whether it is physical or mental. Besides , >>>>>> for years I knew about Pat's ailment but never voiced it out of >>>>>> consideration for his feelings , but now that for years he has gone out >>>>>> of >>>>>> communication I thought there was no harm in sharing my thoughts with >>>>>> you. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> He was a very bright guy who offered is knowledge and ideas >>>>>>> honestly, and, as you say Allan, without judgement and always with >>>>>>> respect. I will spare you my opinion of a psychologist who, without >>>>>>> knowing someone personally and having never seen them professionally, >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> publicly declare a diagnosis of a person based on Internet group posts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:37:17 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have a copy also, lol. Took me a while to get it even though I >>>>>>>> paid for it as soon as I found out it was being published. I have read >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> . His book has given me a lot to think about. >>>>>>>> Most of all Pat was friend, and a legitimate contributing member >>>>>>>> of this group. He was here when I arrived accepting me as I am without >>>>>>>> judgment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which leaves you RP >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 9:09 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I did buy a copy. Whatever my opinion of the book, I would never >>>>>>>> deem it a failure. IMHO, that is up to the author, taking into account >>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>> own goals and objectives for the book and its first publication. If >>>>>>>> #books >>>>>>>> sold is anyone's criterion, they will need to reference the facts. I >>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> that Pat worked for several years on that book. Publicly declaring it >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> failure seems, to me, extraordinarily harsh, especially if >>>>>>>> unsubstantiated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 1:57:52 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Did you buy a copy? I did. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 7:10 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pat had very high expectations. He believed that his 'BOOK' would >>>>>>>>> sell in millions and bring about a paradigm shift. The failure of his >>>>>>>>> book >>>>>>>>> might have been heartbreaking for him and he might just not be in the >>>>>>>>> mood >>>>>>>>> to communicate with us. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:21 PM, archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sadly no idea. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 September 2014 02:33:28 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think of him too, tried contacting his publisher no response. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:05 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can't find him anywhere. I also think of him from time to >>>>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 27, 2014 4:45:33 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone heard from him he has totally disappeared off >>>>>>>>>>>> radar.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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