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Yes, when you said "Ant" it immediately came to mind although that was not 
part of my objective in making it.

Some other views might help:

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On Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:17:39 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>
> The sculpture photo has haunted me Facil.  It almost said 'ant' to me 
> given my current fascination with the creatures.  Then a Liverpool slave 
> sculpture - I think 'the thinker in chains'.  Fantastic in all kinds of 
> meaning.
>
> On Saturday, 11 October 2014 06:06:43 UTC+1, facilitator wrote:
>>
>> 'physics envy'  That is the funniest thing I have heard in about a month!
>>
>> I told a fellow worker today: "Do you think people in California consider 
>> China, the Far West?"
>>
>> We can take little steps.  Like explaining to people, contrary to what 
>> the collective is told by Meteorologists, the Sun never rises or sets. Back 
>> to a matter of perspective.  It is an ill conceived notion that is 
>> perpetuated by naked kings. I actually have fewer doubts knowing I could be 
>> wrong.  It gives me much more freedom.  It is like the saying: "Since I 
>> gave up hope I feel much better!"  Of late, science seems to be orgasmic 
>> about the concept (Panspermia) of the god called "Mars" having started life 
>> sooner than on Earth.  The Earth it seems was not so friendly to life as it 
>> would appear.  The origins timeline being pushed to it's ill conceived 
>> limits so as to require a third party.  A bit of Menage a trois planetary 
>> orgy of sorts.  Or is it all just because some need funding to travel to 
>> the ginger planet!  Follow the money.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 10, 2014 10:33:36 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> How much should we charge for our 'Quantum Suspension of Belief Therapy' 
>>> sessions Tony?  Should we be as touchy-feely as Molly's 'Embrace the 
>>> Paradox' class?  I milked cows in my youth but am not Allan (inferior 
>>> precious metal bashing skills here).  In Fleck's system, religion has a lot 
>>> of active elements directing how to see the world, science tending to more 
>>> passive element collection.  I must say I have met little of Tony's 'we 
>>> might both (all) be wrong' perspective, though even this perspective, as 
>>> with any doubting can become prescriptive or merely the rule of the 
>>> doubters' club.   
>>>
>>
>>  "Early choices of what clubs we join may have to do with competence."   
>>  So true!   I sohudl nto hvea jniode nya cbul taht acpcedte me as a mberem.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 11 October 2014 01:41:59 UTC+1, archytas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I had Pat on the garden path to the Kaliber Yawn space (getting stuck 
>>>> with the fairies at the bottom of the garden with only non-alcoholic beer) 
>>>> - and liked him because he had a better sense of humour than Zarathustra. 
>>>>  I remember my first lab coat more or less as Facil describes.  There is 
>>>> something of one of Molly's paradoxes with authority in science - the 
>>>> rules 
>>>> are always up for grabs in a perpetual legitimation crisis of a club 
>>>> designed around a 'no rules rule book'.
>>>>
>>>> I rather liked  Ludwik Fleck (1896–1961), a Polish-Jewish 
>>>> microbiologist. Fleck claimed that cognition is a collective activity, 
>>>> since it is only possible on the basis of a certain body of knowledge 
>>>> acquired from other people. When people begin to exchange ideas, a thought 
>>>> collective arises, bonded by a specific mood, and as a result of a series 
>>>> of understandings and misunderstandings a peculiar thought style is 
>>>> developed. When a thought style becomes sufficiently sophisticated, the 
>>>> collective divides itself into an esoteric circle (professionals) and an 
>>>> exoteric circle (laymen). A thought style consists of the active elements, 
>>>> which shape ways in which members of the collective see and think about 
>>>> the 
>>>> world, and of the passive elements, the sum of which is perceived as an 
>>>> “objective reality”. What we call “facts”, are social constructs: only 
>>>> what 
>>>> is true to culture is true to nature.
>>>>
>>>> This is only the beginning.  We couldn't distinguish the merits of 
>>>> evolution and creationism on this basis, or economics from a real science 
>>>> (economists basically suffer from 'physics envy').  Back in the 80's I 
>>>> came 
>>>> across people with laboratories and lab coats 'experimenting' with 
>>>> electrodes placed on human heads to prove left brain right brain 
>>>> hemispheric differences.  They attracted a lot of funding, yet were so 
>>>> stupid they considered music a stimulus rather than a complex set of 
>>>> stimuli and could rarely describe any actual brain structure to someone 
>>>> like me who actually diced the things from time to time.  Their equivalent 
>>>> today are those who calibrate various brain scanners so badly that they 
>>>> find intelligent activity in dead salmon.  Quantum mechanics arises from 
>>>> black body radiation experiments, but we are not that sure quite what such 
>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>> Early choices of what clubs we join may have to do with competence. 
>>>>  Anyone can bend the knee to the blue and white chequered rabbit, but not 
>>>> many can, say, dissect a rat solar plexus.  I no longer possess a lab coat 
>>>> and am thus not a credible scientist.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>> On Friday, 10 October 2014 20:01:43 UTC+1, facilitator wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny you should mention "Diversion".   That is exactly what each is. 
>>>>>   I look at them as being almost identical in presentation.  Both rely on 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> set of "Fixed" beliefs.  And both are dependent on adherents accepting 
>>>>> those "Beliefs".  The priest wears robes and tunics and the scientist 
>>>>> escapes dissent among ranks by wearing the lab coat.  Each new theorem 
>>>>> postulated requires a quantum suspension of belief until proven.  (Or 
>>>>> unproven)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, October 10, 2014 7:52:01 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm often struck that science versus religion is a diversion.  There 
>>>>>> is bad science, there is bad religion.  Some 'religion' (economics) 
>>>>>> pretends to be science.  Some dreadful power gamers pretend to be 
>>>>>> religious.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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