I'm often struck that science versus religion is a diversion. There is bad science, there is bad religion. Some 'religion' (economics) pretends to be science. Some dreadful power gamers pretend to be religious.
On Friday, 10 October 2014 12:44:14 UTC+1, archytas wrote: > > Perhaps not Molly - science is much less certain and precise than the > image projected. Deep in, even choosing the maths we use in theorising, > relies on approximation. The manifestation view of particles is very much > understood - wave or particle paradox or deeper in whether the photon and > electron are the same particle viewed in different context, our world the > history of an electron and so on. Paradox is often raised as thought > experiment, and is all we are left with in, say, reducing maths to logic. > > > > On Friday, 10 October 2014 12:24:50 UTC+1, Molly wrote: >> >> There are many leaps to make to get to where Pat was going. The very >> notion of science leaving behind cause and effect leaves most people out in >> the cold. Unless a non dual viewpoint is experienced, it cannot be grasped, >> but once experienced, both non dual and duality can be understood as one. >> The paradox becomes the crux. An unwieldy notion for science. >> >> On Friday, October 10, 2014 7:05:38 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>> >>> Science itself can be rather trapped in creation myths. Big Bang is not >>> necessarily a beginning, and nor is that point in our evolution when we >>> were 'something primordial' like a quasi-amoeba. Entanglement may not be >>> something like, say, Molly and I sharing the same air over time - it is a >>> very special creation in laboratory experiments. The language used gets >>> lost in translation from micro to macro. >>> >>> On Friday, 10 October 2014 09:13:15 UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>> >>>> Interesting book Molly. Going back to 1923 one can find A N >>>> Whitehead's 'Science and the Modern World' and the process philosophy of >>>> misplaced concreteness and the unwarranted bifurcation of reality. These >>>> are old arguments, though non-the-worse for that. Science, of course, is >>>> unlikely to accept argument based on 'a golden salamander told me' - >>>> especially when we can't look in the hat ourselves. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:49:07 UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I found a free book online that tackles some of the stuff of Pat's >>>>> book, the biggest stuff, the merging of physics and mysticism. While Pat >>>>> felt no need to reference popular publications and had more of an >>>>> affinity >>>>> to the bible and Koran, I can appreciate how many of the points made in >>>>> his >>>>> book are made here also. Thanks Pat, wherever you are. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://cloud2.snappages.com/ed35bc002396c05b8c40ef89a4002f59cb2c27f0/Science-of-the-Sages-20141011-Free-eBook-Edition.pdf >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:27:27 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I keep Hop on Pop; Cat in the Hat; & Green Eggs and Ham on my phone, >>>>>> great for when read too. Ah the hidden escape hatches. >>>>>> So I'm a child in heart.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Allan >>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 1:15 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> Like saying yes, when the answer is no. But by the time anyone else >>>>>> finds out the answer is no, no action can correct. yes to everyone and >>>>>> everything. Goodbye to the innocence of Green Eggs and Ham. Science >>>>>> rules >>>>>> the day. We can say what we want, it is meaningless (or is it?). By the >>>>>> time you know what you are looking at, if you ever do, your innocence >>>>>> will >>>>>> be gone with the moment. All you can do is move on to the next Dr. >>>>>> Seuss >>>>>> book, if you still have the heart. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 5:37:15 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (",) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:36 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D8HGxv7UeOM/VCsUMlFID5I/AAAAAAAAABk/JMVQKQl73bw/s1600/Sam%2BI%2Bam.jpg> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:30:00 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe, in some ways, we must suffer madness to retain sanity? From >>>>>>>> nearly 100 years ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Desiderata >>>>>>>> Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there >>>>>>>> may be in silence. >>>>>>>> As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all >>>>>>>> persons. >>>>>>>> Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even >>>>>>>> the dull and ignorant; they too have their story. >>>>>>>> Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit. >>>>>>>> If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter; >>>>>>>> for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. >>>>>>>> Keep interested in your career, however humble; it is a real >>>>>>>> possession in the changing fortunes of time. >>>>>>>> Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of >>>>>>>> trickery. >>>>>>>> But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons >>>>>>>> strive for high ideals; >>>>>>>> and everywhere life is full of heroism. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Be yourself. >>>>>>>> Especially, do not feign affection. >>>>>>>> Neither be critical about love; for in the face of all aridity and >>>>>>>> disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the >>>>>>>> things of youth. >>>>>>>> Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But >>>>>>>> do not distress yourself with imaginings. >>>>>>>> Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome >>>>>>>> discipline, be gentle with yourself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the >>>>>>>> stars; >>>>>>>> you have a right to be here. >>>>>>>> And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is >>>>>>>> unfolding as it should. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, >>>>>>>> and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of >>>>>>>> life keep peace with your soul. >>>>>>>> With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a >>>>>>>> beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> © Max Ehrmann 1927 >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:03:14 UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what a real valid person isn't Allan. I miss the >>>>>>>>> entertainment. The science was Kaliber Yawn, but then I'm a 'cold >>>>>>>>> dark' >>>>>>>>> man on physics and anti-traditionalist on god. I hope you and I >>>>>>>>> would not >>>>>>>>> sit about pondering naked gymnastics for the young and virtue ethics >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> participants in The Republic, whilst telling slaves to fetch another >>>>>>>>> glass >>>>>>>>> of wine or herbal tea or a 'flute girl'. We managed to ban Chazwin, >>>>>>>>> a fine >>>>>>>>> chap suffering from cancer at the time. Manners and politesse can be >>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>> nasty. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 30 September 2014 19:14:21 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As friend outside ME I enjoyed his private messages and liked >>>>>>>>>> him. He was a real valid person. Miss his input. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>>> A Living Soul >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 7:51 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just about my view Gabby, to be honest. What would we be saying >>>>>>>>>> if we had known Paul Gauguin - see >>>>>>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/8011066/Is-it-wrong-to-admire-Paul-Gauguins-art.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - not that I connect any such lifehistory with Pat. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 29 September 2014 22:15:16 UTC+1, Gabby wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I agree with your analysis, RP. I share Pat's love for patterns >>>>>>>>>>> and have experienced some of the side effects also. There are times >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> situations when this shown behaviour is normal. So these >>>>>>>>>>> behavioural >>>>>>>>>>> patterns don't really scare me. What got me really upset was the >>>>>>>>>>> role of >>>>>>>>>>> "publisher", a windy bubble creationist. The website was so crap, I >>>>>>>>>>> understood I would not send one penny to this dubious enterprise >>>>>>>>>>> and that >>>>>>>>>>> they would not do anything to promote the book. I hope Pat has got >>>>>>>>>>> more in >>>>>>>>>>> sync with real people again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Am Montag, 29. September 2014 02:47:55 UTC+2 schrieb RP Singh: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have not diagnosed someone's character , rather I have >>>>>>>>>>>> presented my estimate about his behaviour pattern. It is not a >>>>>>>>>>>> judgement >>>>>>>>>>>> but an analysis of abnormal behaviour. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:46 AM, Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We are here to discuss ideas, RP, not the members characters. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Attack on a members character, even if your opinion is in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> form of a >>>>>>>>>>>>> diagnosis, is clearly outlawed in the guidelines. Pat shared >>>>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting ideas in this group, and was appreciated by many of >>>>>>>>>>>>> us. Where >>>>>>>>>>>>> I come from, we call an attack on someones character who is not >>>>>>>>>>>>> present >>>>>>>>>>>>> backstabbing, and is, by any measure, as Mando points out, a >>>>>>>>>>>>> breach of >>>>>>>>>>>>> trust. Whether currently participating or not, we are not here >>>>>>>>>>>>> to comment >>>>>>>>>>>>> on people's character. If you have any comments on string >>>>>>>>>>>>> theory, or any >>>>>>>>>>>>> other facet of Pat's book, I suggest you move on to discussing >>>>>>>>>>>>> his ideas >>>>>>>>>>>>> and away from diagnosing his or anyone else's character. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:22:49 PM UTC-4, RP Singh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have diagnosed an abnormal behaviour and do not attempt to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> make personality assessments of normal people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Richard Blay < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So RP, Mr. psychologist, what are you going to write about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gabby if she goes out of communication based on her postings? ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 28, 2014 10:45 PM, "Molly" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I reject your opinion and find it uninformed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:56:02 PM UTC-4, RP Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat was a classical case of paranoid schizophrenia as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed through his posts. In mental disorders , unlike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physiological >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems it is not absolutely necessary that you personally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affected person. His disease can be definitely gleaned from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his thoughts if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are clear enough , which in Pats case were quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transparent. As for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sub-types of schizophrenia , paranoid schizophrenia is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite unique >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it involves paranoid thinking as well. No disrespect >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is intended >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> towards Pat , a disease is a disease whether it is physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or mental. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides , for years I knew about Pat's ailment but never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voiced it out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consideration for his feelings , but now that for years he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has gone out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communication I thought there was no harm in sharing my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts with you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was a very bright guy who offered is knowledge and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas honestly, and, as you say Allan, without judgement and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect. I will spare you my opinion of a psychologist who, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowing someone personally and having never seen them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professionally, would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publicly declare a diagnosis of a person based on Internet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group posts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:37:17 PM UTC-4, Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a copy also, lol. Took me a while to get it even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though I paid for it as soon as I found out it was being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> published. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read it . His book has given me a lot to think about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of all Pat was friend, and a legitimate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing member of this group. He was here when I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrived accepting me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I am without judgment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which leaves you RP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 9:09 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did buy a copy. Whatever my opinion of the book, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never deem it a failure. IMHO, that is up to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> author, taking into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account his own goals and objectives for the book and its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publication. If #books sold is anyone's criterion, they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference the facts. I know that Pat worked for several >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years on that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> book. Publicly declaring it a failure seems, to me, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extraordinarily harsh, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially if unsubstantiated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 1:57:52 PM UTC-4, Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you buy a copy? I did. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 7:10 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat had very high expectations. He believed that his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'BOOK' would sell in millions and bring about a paradigm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shift. The failure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of his book might have been heartbreaking for him and he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might just not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the mood to communicate with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:21 PM, archytas < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly no idea. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 September 2014 02:33:28 UTC+1, Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think of him too, tried contacting his publisher no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:05 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find him anywhere. I also think of him from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time to time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 27, 2014 4:45:33 PM UTC-4, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone heard from him he has totally disappeared >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off radar.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails from it, send an email to minds-eye+...@ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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