Apparently, atheists and Muslims are most likely to believe in aliens.  I 
suppose religionists are more likely to be prone to 'visions' and guess 
atheists (I've never quite met one) know about Drake's Law (in a universe 
so big there not being other life is unlikely).  Various chimera exist in 
our literature from times when more than a few days' walk was to enter 
'alien territory'.  My alien experiences as a child were of the face at the 
widow kind and being terrified by dreams of golden-clawed lobsters coming 
out from under the bed.  Later, post-op morphine was pretty good, as was 
post-exhaustion on army exercises (where I asked a werewolf for 
directions).  

Much alien stuff is pretty religious - good guys might come offering 
salvation like a couple of fusion reactors and bad guys might unite us in a 
battle against their evil.  Joining the EU was once about salvation, just 
as leaving is now.  Human beings often seem pretty alien to me (touch of 
autism).  MumboJumbo was some kind of Congo jungle spirit used to prevent 
women wandering off - all rather religious.  The fantastic power of aliens 
in travelling space-time (Facil's sculpture is brilliantly fantastic as its 
constituents would melt, yet is also a symbol of escape to salvation - 
maybe like the Mayflower and current rickety refugee boats).

The alien in religion, especially control fraud religion like economics, 
can be salvation or hideous control (the sky will fall, MumboJumbo will get 
you, Judgement Day) - and perhaps even makes the believer alien-chosen as 
in Rapture.  Under dire religious control of ridiculous status quo blood 
debts (Lele) or banks, maybe the spirit flies to the alien - 'my invisible 
big brother will get you' with plagues of frogs.  Anything other than the 
practical, like replacing banks with block chain technologies and plastic 
crap economies with serious development of clean energy and space-craft 
that can survive space weather.

Good question Tony - I suspect I'd have to experience religion first to 
give an answer.  The contest between golden salamanders in hats is not my 
bag.  My aliens, currently diverted into tapping vacuum energy near the 
centre of our galaxy (this is why our super-massive blackhole is grey) 
100,000 light-years away, are coming to tell us to get on with peace or 
they'll bomb us to kingdom come - sadly highly derivative of US (Western) 
foreign policy as spoken to us.  Our galaxy, they will explain, has been 
infected by the spider-ant slavers from Andromeda, another religious-type 
ploy.  How will we know they are not the spider-ants?  All we need for 
salvation is a small implant that will allow us to live on a higher plane.

On Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:52:39 UTC+1, facilitator wrote:
>
>    Throughout the discussions occasionally the topic of "Aliens", Alien 
> life, has come up.   My view: I don't think so.  (And this from someone who 
> has witnessed two UFO's).    What is (are) your argument(s) for believing 
> (religious connotation) in Alien life?  
>
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