Electro-magnetic spectrum communication is very slow in the distances involved. Some have estimated the energy needed to focus radio through lasers might be enormous - a reason to think the silence doesn't rule out other civilisations.
One reason science fiction may have so much religious content is copying - we tell the same stories over and over, reinforcing this by restricting output to notions of what is popular in the market. On Saturday, 18 October 2014 13:59:57 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Recently there was science program was on TV, one of the topics was the > possibility of life within the milky way galaxy, using broad guesses at > numbers. The figure he came up with is the minimum number of civilizations > equal to or greater than our own would be 10 in the galaxy. With a much > greater possibility for advanced civilizations. > > Allan > A Living Soul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 1:58 PM > Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Aliens > > The current scramble on water and amino acids includes speculation that > Earth's water is older than the Earth and 'comet guns' that have shown > comet impact creates the precursor chemicals. > I guess the read tells us not much is new in this area, a typical product > of literature review. There's a longer example here - > http://www.dickhoutman.nl/mediatheek/files/stef_aupers__dick_houtman_religions_of_modernity_2010.pdf > > 'Dickhoutman' gave me a slight giggle! There's even a journal called > 'Holy Sci-fi: Science Fiction and Religion' considering such as religious > robots. > > Bits of science fiction turn to science fact - our current rocket and >> space technology thanks to Nazi war technology. Anything much beyond the >> solar system hasn't. On Facil's last point, I go back to my ants. They >> 'invented' slavery long before we humans and there seems something >> inevitably biological about competitive advantage. Dung beetles navigate >> in relation to the Milky Way and some creatures by more distant stars. >> Physicists sometimes think quantum mechanics is a cosmic code and it is >> possible religion and science fiction are 'early interpretations' of what >> we can make material reality. If "dark" exists we may start to perceive it. > > > Another haunting image Facil. > > On Saturday, 18 October 2014 05:26:08 UTC+1, facilitator wrote: >> >> >> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QdKf5XfRsSE/VEHruxbgaWI/AAAAAAAAAEM/_vqki-MbbVg/s1600/final%2Bboots%2B001.jpg> >> Interesting read. >> >> I like to reverse engineer things in order to get a foundation under my >> frail belief system. In this regard I think there might be some plausible >> explanations for the lack of Alien contact. >> >> 1. We are alone in the universe. An anomalous evolutionary copulation. >> An error. A mistake. We find ourselves at the very top of the food chain >> that we are ill prepared to assume responsibility for. Somehow found the >> only "Sweet spot" in the galaxy. >> >> 2. We are under quarantine by a plurality of alien life that find us too >> dangerous to spread across the galaxy. This might be indefinite or eternal >> damnation. A rise in our own venturing inside our solar system seem to >> produce an uptick in "sightings". >> >> 3. We are the aliens we are looking for and we have already settled here. >> (Panspermia). Many drawings and folklore tales of superior(?) beings >> visiting this planet. Even the Bible is ripe with strange creatures (All >> with gift of flight) and designs of things that make no sense to the >> writers at the time. Ezekiels Gyroscopic wheel. >> >> 1a) I think the "alone in the universe" terrifies even the most >> ardent scientist/atheist. Unfathomable…there must be other life. A >> devotion to this "Hope" borders on religious fanaticism. It has been >> stated: We don't know but there must be other life forms. Like children >> seeing the Virgin Mary (How she stayed a virgin after having other children >> with Joseph still baffles me.) Scientists scramble to see water and amino >> acids everywhere. >> >> 2a) Being under quarantine is debilitating. It means we can strive >> to reach the stars but it will be in vain. Like the tower of babel when >> men tried to reach heaven. >> I think this also to be egregious and unfair because it guaranties that >> life exists elsewhere. This is the unrequited love of Earth toward the >> galaxy. >> >> 3a) Not so far fetched is the idea that we are us. Or we are them. >> After all this seems as a good a place as any to settle. (Or to be >> placed). We ourselves seem to prefer, in the beginning, to be content, to >> send people to the moon before robots. Which is really a nonsensical idea. >> >> My good friend Neil provided an interesting read which I would like to >> address in this way. Science fiction of the past always makes its way into >> science fact. Why is this? Are these ideas already part of our Instinct? >> Are these vain imaginations or predetermined programs? >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
