cynical
On Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:49:15 AM UTC-4, facilitator wrote:
>
> I wish ! Not all artists are well hung. Some of the work ends up in
> garage sales.
>
> In regards to the woman who was hung recently in Iran, there is an
> underlying premiss that any evil men do are simply the result of a woman
> causing that to occur. This is partly the problem within the system is the
> premiss that somehow people are inherently good…we are not. Our morality
> fights the evolutionary urge to be the fittest and to kill off the
> competitor, or the weaker.
>
> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:08:02 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>
>> Hanging might be less cruel than suffering some of the cop, social worker
>> and other town hall incompetence. A lot of the kids lied to me Molly -
>> quite common in abuse cases - over stuff I could check up on. Some even
>> tried to chat me up etc. Given we have known forever that many abuse cases
>> are not independently witnessed and victims are incredibly easy to
>> discredit, I'm amazed we don't routinely bug to get independent evidence -
>> I even hid in a wardrobe to get one perp. Given people catch their nannies
>> doing things wrong on CCTV, you'd think we could work a system out for
>> abuse.
>>
>> I've often thought we could go back to something more like village life
>> by gating off in our existing towns.
>>
>> Tony is probably the only one of us who gets hung regularly.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:09:33 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> Good idea Tony, hope you are never the victim. (Hmmm)
>>>
>>> You have a job i would not envy, times are hard and will be getting
>>> harder.. It seems to me there is an ever increasing desire for war from all
>>> sides.
>>>
>>> Been thinking about my dad and the men's coop. Considering the down
>>> slide in morality, the coop idea might have possibilities especially when
>>> coupled with a gated community.
>>> My idea is the community would be owned by the coop .. ( say a block of
>>> apartments) To become a member of the gated or coop you have to live to a
>>> set of moral commitments. (Including spousal abuse , drug use (guidelines
>>> would need to be developed. (lol right after we hang Tony for something he
>>> might do or could have done.. (",)
>>>
>>> All an
>>> ~~
>>> do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "'facilitator' via \"Minds Eye\"" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 7:21 AM
>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Who can we tell?
>>>
>>> Iran has seem to have solved the problem by being able to hang the
>>> victim.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:40:49 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> BBC's 'Panorama' produced a documentary last night on 'Baby P' - Peter
>>>> Connelly killed at 17 months after much abuse 7 years ago. The
>>>> perpetrators were jailed, scum of little interest. There was a serious
>>>> case review, generally a hapless procedure of whitewash here. It now
>>>> seems
>>>> this and other reports were a fix to pin blame on social services - in
>>>> fact
>>>> all agencies involved were useless, social services perhaps less so than
>>>> the politicians and others. Obviously, no reasonable society would want
>>>> this kind of vicious cover-up at all or not to know what really went on
>>>> for
>>>> 7 years, given we should want to put things right (the 'learning lessons'
>>>> rhetoric).
>>>>
>>>> Britain is an intensely secretive society. I don't even know why we
>>>> got involved in the two world wars, let alone Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and
>>>> Syria. When I think of Gabby or Germans I have actually met, I have even
>>>> less idea on the world wars. I doubt ignorance is my problem in this -
>>>> it's just clear the general stuff we are given is bunk. When one
>>>> researches social issues from war to child abuse, the reality shifts a
>>>> long
>>>> way from the history of Empire I was taught and the idea our politicians
>>>> and bureaucracy operate in any competent way.
>>>>
>>>> In another case, in Rotherham, more than 1400 victims of child sexual
>>>> exploitation were further abused by all the services they encountered. In
>>>> this case, a young, female Home Office researcher had her work destroyed
>>>> and was threatened by two police officers who said they were going to give
>>>> her name and address to the abusers. There are so many other cases I
>>>> doubt
>>>> I could finish writing their outline within a couple of days. This is
>>>> before one thinks about our banks and business practices, and revolting
>>>> breaches of trust by priests, teachers and cops.
>>>>
>>>> Who can we even tell when it is almost impossible to think of any
>>>> speedy and fair investigations and resolutions - or even admissions of
>>>> wrong-doing by our establishments? This before you realise cops and other
>>>> agencies quickly brief against victims and other complainants.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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