Even the coops that are now just shops and a failed bank run by a drug
addict Methodist minister were once a rebellion against 'trucking' -
over-priced factory shops Moll.
On Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:42:51 PM UTC, Molly wrote:
>
> cynical
>
> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:49:15 AM UTC-4, facilitator wrote:
>>
>> I wish ! Not all artists are well hung. Some of the work ends up in
>> garage sales.
>>
>> In regards to the woman who was hung recently in Iran, there is an
>> underlying premiss that any evil men do are simply the result of a woman
>> causing that to occur. This is partly the problem within the system is the
>> premiss that somehow people are inherently good…we are not. Our morality
>> fights the evolutionary urge to be the fittest and to kill off the
>> competitor, or the weaker.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:08:02 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> Hanging might be less cruel than suffering some of the cop, social
>>> worker and other town hall incompetence. A lot of the kids lied to me
>>> Molly - quite common in abuse cases - over stuff I could check up on. Some
>>> even tried to chat me up etc. Given we have known forever that many abuse
>>> cases are not independently witnessed and victims are incredibly easy to
>>> discredit, I'm amazed we don't routinely bug to get independent evidence -
>>> I even hid in a wardrobe to get one perp. Given people catch their nannies
>>> doing things wrong on CCTV, you'd think we could work a system out for
>>> abuse.
>>>
>>> I've often thought we could go back to something more like village life
>>> by gating off in our existing towns.
>>>
>>> Tony is probably the only one of us who gets hung regularly.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:09:33 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good idea Tony, hope you are never the victim. (Hmmm)
>>>>
>>>> You have a job i would not envy, times are hard and will be getting
>>>> harder.. It seems to me there is an ever increasing desire for war from
>>>> all
>>>> sides.
>>>>
>>>> Been thinking about my dad and the men's coop. Considering the down
>>>> slide in morality, the coop idea might have possibilities especially when
>>>> coupled with a gated community.
>>>> My idea is the community would be owned by the coop .. ( say a block of
>>>> apartments) To become a member of the gated or coop you have to live to a
>>>> set of moral commitments. (Including spousal abuse , drug use (guidelines
>>>> would need to be developed. (lol right after we hang Tony for something he
>>>> might do or could have done.. (",)
>>>>
>>>> All an
>>>> ~~
>>>> do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "'facilitator' via \"Minds Eye\"" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 7:21 AM
>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Who can we tell?
>>>>
>>>> Iran has seem to have solved the problem by being able to hang the
>>>> victim.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:40:49 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> BBC's 'Panorama' produced a documentary last night on 'Baby P' - Peter
>>>>> Connelly killed at 17 months after much abuse 7 years ago. The
>>>>> perpetrators were jailed, scum of little interest. There was a serious
>>>>> case review, generally a hapless procedure of whitewash here. It now
>>>>> seems
>>>>> this and other reports were a fix to pin blame on social services - in
>>>>> fact
>>>>> all agencies involved were useless, social services perhaps less so than
>>>>> the politicians and others. Obviously, no reasonable society would want
>>>>> this kind of vicious cover-up at all or not to know what really went on
>>>>> for
>>>>> 7 years, given we should want to put things right (the 'learning lessons'
>>>>> rhetoric).
>>>>>
>>>>> Britain is an intensely secretive society. I don't even know why we
>>>>> got involved in the two world wars, let alone Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya
>>>>> and
>>>>> Syria. When I think of Gabby or Germans I have actually met, I have even
>>>>> less idea on the world wars. I doubt ignorance is my problem in this -
>>>>> it's just clear the general stuff we are given is bunk. When one
>>>>> researches social issues from war to child abuse, the reality shifts a
>>>>> long
>>>>> way from the history of Empire I was taught and the idea our politicians
>>>>> and bureaucracy operate in any competent way.
>>>>>
>>>>> In another case, in Rotherham, more than 1400 victims of child sexual
>>>>> exploitation were further abused by all the services they encountered.
>>>>> In
>>>>> this case, a young, female Home Office researcher had her work destroyed
>>>>> and was threatened by two police officers who said they were going to
>>>>> give
>>>>> her name and address to the abusers. There are so many other cases I
>>>>> doubt
>>>>> I could finish writing their outline within a couple of days. This is
>>>>> before one thinks about our banks and business practices, and revolting
>>>>> breaches of trust by priests, teachers and cops.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who can we even tell when it is almost impossible to think of any
>>>>> speedy and fair investigations and resolutions - or even admissions of
>>>>> wrong-doing by our establishments? This before you realise cops and
>>>>> other
>>>>> agencies quickly brief against victims and other complainants.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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