Beautiful poetry.  Is there any German for goose-gabbsed yet?  It sounds 
like something that could only happen to an Englishman.  Thank goodness I'm 
Scots.

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:17:02 AM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>
> It could actually be very tiring to serve the system of embracing the 
> paradox of being  goose  gabbsed in order to allow the natural superpower 
> to delve in fantastic  memories of milk&honey lands. Paradise is not lost, 
> the anti-islamic freedom fighters will bark us the way back and so on and 
> so on. But - au contraire - this primitive echo chamber of cheap 
> stereotypes keeps reminding me of the importance of staying awake. Thank 
> you all. :)
>  
>
> Am 17.12.2014 um 00:58 schrieb archytas <[email protected]>:
>
> Gabby is right, of course or jawohl.  Direction is often what screws us. 
>  Most university courses in management have some pot-boiler content on 
> 'motivation at work' that excludes what is done to get us into work 
> situations in the first place.  The aim is to get get students to hack out 
> answers from this content without ever thinking.  No doubt my insistence on 
> them thinking for themselves was equally directive.  I also taught the 
> equivalent of getting them to read keynotes like those that let you give 
> the answers teachers want on Jane Eyre and the rest without reading the 
> novel.  Some of the most directive and awful management teaching concerns 
> personal development.  The best I managed was to let my students know how 
> little I know, though the Socratic irony is even this is to know more than 
> people who read management books thinking acting as they instruct is 
> remotely moral.  One of my own teachers, asked to give us what had been 
> important to him gave us two bits of plain paper.
>
> So what do YOU think people?  I used to give out half-a-dozen potential 
> assignments.  The last question was always 'think one up yourselves'.  This 
> had few takers, though all the best work came from those that chose this 
> option.  One or two were smart enough to negotiate doing nothing, offering 
> me the opportunity of having nothing to mark.  Anthony Flew is supposed to 
> have answered the question 'what is courage?' with the two words 'this is' 
> as an undergraduate.  Gabby will no doubt tell us this wasn't minimalist 
> enough.
>
> False enthusiasm is now taught in teacher training.  You've just got to 
> lurve them sums and keep beating this enthusiasm into kids that can't do 
> them.  We might ask the holy cows - they have fairly complex language if 
> one bothers to listen to them.
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:01:03 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> ROGLMAO. The Holy Cow thing is from Gabby's new tag line. . It is not my 
>> idea.. the olden calf thing is her's also.. don't want credit for great 
>> ideas. 
>> Actually when you think about it minds eye is our sacred cow..  
>>
>> So what is the topic for barn storming in the Holy Cow of Minds Eye? 
>>
>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:28
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>
>> It might be a case of working out where hostility arises and who is 
>> trying to master whom.  I had not thought of myself as a holy cow before Al 
>> - thanks for that one!
>>
>> On Tuesday, 16 December 2014 08:49:37 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> You are right Gabby  Do not kill the holy cow..  (",)
>>>
>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 9:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>
>>> It is some sort of sentimental streak that I have identified that keeps 
>>> me from not objecting to "the master is right" statements. I will work on 
>>> that.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Do not kill the Holy Cow.
>>>
>>> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2014 schrieb :
>>>
>>>> Neil is right Gabby.  Minds eye is a discussion group. . It is open to 
>>>> any topic. Writers block is a valid topic because you are objecting so 
>>>> much 
>>>> my guess would be you are suffering from writer's block. 
>>>> Unfortunately that means we put up with a lot of BS from everyone. If 
>>>> you don't like the topic the easiest way to deal with it is not respond. I 
>>>> know that is to simple of a solution.
>>>>
>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 1:43 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>
>>>> Write the note so we can cut and paste Gabby.  One of those cards in 
>>>> the window of a cosmopolitan guest house would do, or none at all to 
>>>> indicate we take hospitality for granted.  You always were the sweetest 
>>>> goose.  My eyes are warm brown.  Democracies with few ideas or 
>>>> contributions are hard.  I was not my own candidate in the mod game - you 
>>>> were.  The ears of democracy were deaf and so achieved default by default.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, December 15, 2014 12:41:39 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not cause problems if we made this group site your writer's 
>>>>> blog. Democratic principles have never managed to enter this space here 
>>>>> anyhow.  Your input activities have kept the group communication process 
>>>>> alive for the past years, so we might as well fully face reality and do 
>>>>> something ourselves to get you out of here and into the world. That way 
>>>>> we 
>>>>> could also try to legitimize the blue eye without feeling too much shame. 
>>>>> Speaking of shame and mental blockage, yes, it helps to be German to be 
>>>>> able to violate English language parameters and principles. Universal 
>>>>> grammar principles have been shown to be violable by speakers of all 
>>>>> kinds 
>>>>> though. Which is why I recommend you changed the welcome note and turned 
>>>>> it 
>>>>> into a real welcome note. Cross out all the things that show how much 
>>>>> unpleasant experiences you expect to occur and how you are prepared to 
>>>>> cross them out. A short but friendly welcome note will do. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Samstag, 13. Dezember 2014 02:36:57 UTC+1 schrieb archytas:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck as ever Molly.  I once had a cat that learned to type and 
>>>>>> turned my thesis into Greek.  The dogs aren't being much help, lying 
>>>>>> about 
>>>>>> bored when I produce the great work and leaping to enthusiasm only when 
>>>>>> they hear the noise of Windows 10 signing off.  They have decided this 
>>>>>> means 'walkies;.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:15:01 AM UTC, Molly wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Writing block is a force to be reckoned with. When we can't express, 
>>>>>>> we can only be still, until the expression begins again. Good luck, my 
>>>>>>> friend. As for me, I am entering the season of hectic calling. I will 
>>>>>>> miss 
>>>>>>> you all in the duration, and will try to chime in from time to time. I 
>>>>>>> love 
>>>>>>> it here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:47:46 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Odd how easily we get suckered into such as 'bad spelling', the 
>>>>>>>> shame of the misplaced apostrophe, barking spelling rules like i 
>>>>>>>> before e 
>>>>>>>> except after c (no doubt like seize) and 'for who the bell tolls' (it 
>>>>>>>> shouldn't be whom according to the rules).  I actually thought 
>>>>>>>> 'histarical' 
>>>>>>>> describes us both to a T at times and Gabby all of the time (not 
>>>>>>>> really) - 
>>>>>>>> so why should it be a spelling mistak?  Gabbs won't understand none of 
>>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>>> Charlie, on the grounds of being dragged up in the logically ruthless 
>>>>>>>> German language in which one must tomorrow navel with head in clouds 
>>>>>>>> gaze 
>>>>>>>> the dative case, bright as a button being in the creation of words so 
>>>>>>>> long 
>>>>>>>> they probably their own internal syntax haben.  To make up for this 
>>>>>>>> they 
>>>>>>>> drop the a in 'I am a Berliner'.  Endless supplies of paper we not 
>>>>>>>> though 
>>>>>>>> Sweden army trees and small army have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My English teachers had nice legs.  I remember little else other 
>>>>>>>> than the trauma of the Oxford comma and the brutality of the future 
>>>>>>>> pluperfect.  German and Russian came as blessed relief from the 
>>>>>>>> language of 
>>>>>>>> world domination, now wrenched from the Queen's fair hands by 
>>>>>>>> Americans 
>>>>>>>> with no language of their own.  I was told I would need these foreign 
>>>>>>>> languages, along with Latin to better understand Greek and read 
>>>>>>>> scientific 
>>>>>>>> papers written by the only foreigners literate in it.  Turned out 
>>>>>>>> everything about Greeks and Romans was an extended lie of the Catholic 
>>>>>>>> Church and German and Russian scientists bright enough to translate 
>>>>>>>> papers 
>>>>>>>> to English.  They dropped the requirement doctors speak Latin on the 
>>>>>>>> day 
>>>>>>>> they started teaching it to me.  Doctors, of course, never wrote 
>>>>>>>> Latin, but 
>>>>>>>> this does explain why their handwriting is so bad.  They just haven't 
>>>>>>>> dropped the habit of covering up their lack of Latin.  It is a matter 
>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>> great regret I never discovered who or what was sucking out the brains 
>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>> my contemporaries to make them think.  At some point, I strumbled 
>>>>>>>> (another 
>>>>>>>> word we should put to more use) into computer coding.  Here one 
>>>>>>>> discovers 
>>>>>>>> that coding is very boring and relies on understanding nothing human 
>>>>>>>> beings 
>>>>>>>> say makes sense to machines far brighter than we are, able to 
>>>>>>>> translate all 
>>>>>>>> languages through statistical methods badly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get out that fiddle Allan and we'll jamm some histarical stom 
>>>>>>>> strumble. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 4:04:29 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know my spelling is bad.. but it is better than it was.  A good 
>>>>>>>>> brain stoming session is good if fellow participants have brains.
>>>>>>>>> Good starting point.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 9:36 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we have the idea of the 'solo artist' quite wrong.  
>>>>>>>>> Collaboration with others is often awful - I really have been to 
>>>>>>>>> brainstorming sessions of truly brainless proportion - and I long 
>>>>>>>>> abandoned 
>>>>>>>>> other academics in anything where I was responsible for deadlines - 
>>>>>>>>> yet I 
>>>>>>>>> miss the contributions of others now I've gone solo and still can't 
>>>>>>>>> shake 
>>>>>>>>> off what we might call 'audience pressures' or find a voice (though I 
>>>>>>>>> can 
>>>>>>>>> still get through 3 hours of lecturing with discomfort only amongst 
>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> poor souls that have to listen).  'Histarical' sounds wonderfully 
>>>>>>>>> descriptive of something you and I experience Al.  The Engleesh 
>>>>>>>>> teechers 
>>>>>>>>> will never allow it though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wanted to do something like my teaching strategy - largely based 
>>>>>>>>> on an early threat that my job was to install a thick textbook of 
>>>>>>>>> unbelievable tedium in the heads of students, followed by an offer to 
>>>>>>>>> throw 
>>>>>>>>> it in the bin if they would have a go at finding something they 
>>>>>>>>> wanted to 
>>>>>>>>> do.  A kind if make your own mind up novel.  I managed this in case 
>>>>>>>>> study 
>>>>>>>>> by encouraging investigation outside the written material.  I think 
>>>>>>>>> what 
>>>>>>>>> happened to me was getting used to writing in hyper-text to be filled 
>>>>>>>>> out 
>>>>>>>>> by others and too used to marking all the work as though I was the 
>>>>>>>>> audience.  I am not alone, as an academic, in reading Kierkegaard as 
>>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>>> Danish comic (the Nordics will wait much longer for a joke than us) - 
>>>>>>>>> but I 
>>>>>>>>> can't find a way to write the bigger farce of language as deception, 
>>>>>>>>> other 
>>>>>>>>> than in some turgid academy-speak on such as law courts pretending to 
>>>>>>>>> be 
>>>>>>>>> rational while acting out Freud's Oedipal theatre.  Histarical!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:26:06 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But what would I know, I seem to be trapped where time is nothing 
>>>>>>>>>> more than a histarical marker.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 7:18 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you see if the tinsel is being worn inside or on top of the 
>>>>>>>>>> blue velvet?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:58:19 AM UTC, Allan Heretic 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what your colleague is saying. As for brains that 
>>>>>>>>>>> is why I oftentimes why I find myself sitting  on the side of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> hill. I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>> left wondering if most of the world has turned into a tinsel town?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 2:07 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Creativity is free without copyright protection.  Walking into a 
>>>>>>>>>>> brainstorming session it is tempting to ask 'where are the other 
>>>>>>>>>>> brains 
>>>>>>>>>>> then'?  Even the invention of physics outside space-time doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>>> get one 
>>>>>>>>>>> out-from-under that manoeuvre, especially when pertinent to 
>>>>>>>>>>> reality!  What 
>>>>>>>>>>> everyone in the galaxy hates most is a wise-ass.  A colleague once 
>>>>>>>>>>> told me 
>>>>>>>>>>> she couldn't stand even minor distractions like people talking at 
>>>>>>>>>>> the back, 
>>>>>>>>>>> always thinking they might be saying something more interesting 
>>>>>>>>>>> than she 
>>>>>>>>>>> was.  I was able to assure her this could not be true, as no one 
>>>>>>>>>>> had ever 
>>>>>>>>>>> said anything interesting in one of her classes.  'Must have SOH' 
>>>>>>>>>>> is a 
>>>>>>>>>>> general personality demand - yet most react to harmless jibes with 
>>>>>>>>>>> revenge 
>>>>>>>>>>> and advertising as harmless.  Brilliant riposte - I've just spent 3 
>>>>>>>>>>> hours 
>>>>>>>>>>> fixing the ultimate block to my writing - malfunctioning Microsoft 
>>>>>>>>>>> Office - 
>>>>>>>>>>> needed a smile.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One might try writing on the important, but no one is interested 
>>>>>>>>>>> in that without the guru act.  My aliens have it that the prime 
>>>>>>>>>>> directive 
>>>>>>>>>>> of human languages is deception.  Few humans can take this deadly 
>>>>>>>>>>> seriousness with a smile.  Sadly the aliens don't use money and I 
>>>>>>>>>>> have to 
>>>>>>>>>>> rely on the human audience.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:47:07 PM UTC, facilitator 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My first reaction is to try and respond with a clever yet 
>>>>>>>>>>>> reciprocating idea but I don't want to hate myself after I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> posted it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> A response to this requires thought.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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