Don't know I am trying to figure out if Tony was getting a bit cheeky. .

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Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others

-----Original Message-----
From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:26
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block

The Scotch animal. So so. More wise keys anyone?

Am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2014 schrieb archytas :

> Beautiful poetry.  Is there any German for goose-gabbsed yet?  It sounds
> like something that could only happen to an Englishman.  Thank goodness I'm
> Scots.
>
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:17:02 AM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>
>> It could actually be very tiring to serve the system of embracing the
>> paradox of being  goose  gabbsed in order to allow the natural superpower
>> to delve in fantastic  memories of milk&honey lands. Paradise is not lost,
>> the anti-islamic freedom fighters will bark us the way back and so on and
>> so on. But - au contraire - this primitive echo chamber of cheap
>> stereotypes keeps reminding me of the importance of staying awake. Thank
>> you all. :)
>>
>>
>> Am 17.12.2014 um 00:58 schrieb archytas <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>:
>>
>> Gabby is right, of course or jawohl.  Direction is often what screws us.
>> Most university courses in management have some pot-boiler content on
>> 'motivation at work' that excludes what is done to get us into work
>> situations in the first place.  The aim is to get get students to hack out
>> answers from this content without ever thinking.  No doubt my insistence on
>> them thinking for themselves was equally directive.  I also taught the
>> equivalent of getting them to read keynotes like those that let you give
>> the answers teachers want on Jane Eyre and the rest without reading the
>> novel.  Some of the most directive and awful management teaching concerns
>> personal development.  The best I managed was to let my students know how
>> little I know, though the Socratic irony is even this is to know more than
>> people who read management books thinking acting as they instruct is
>> remotely moral.  One of my own teachers, asked to give us what had been
>> important to him gave us two bits of plain paper.
>>
>> So what do YOU think people?  I used to give out half-a-dozen potential
>> assignments.  The last question was always 'think one up yourselves'.  This
>> had few takers, though all the best work came from those that chose this
>> option.  One or two were smart enough to negotiate doing nothing, offering
>> me the opportunity of having nothing to mark.  Anthony Flew is supposed to
>> have answered the question 'what is courage?' with the two words 'this is'
>> as an undergraduate.  Gabby will no doubt tell us this wasn't minimalist
>> enough.
>>
>> False enthusiasm is now taught in teacher training.  You've just got to
>> lurve them sums and keep beating this enthusiasm into kids that can't do
>> them.  We might ask the holy cows - they have fairly complex language if
>> one bothers to listen to them.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:01:03 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> ROGLMAO. The Holy Cow thing is from Gabby's new tag line. . It is not my
>>> idea.. the olden calf thing is her's also.. don't want credit for great
>>> ideas.
>>> Actually when you think about it minds eye is our sacred cow..
>>>
>>> So what is the topic for barn storming in the Holy Cow of Minds Eye?
>>>
>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: archytas <[email protected]
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:28
>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>
>>> It might be a case of working out where hostility arises and who is
>>> trying to master whom.  I had not thought of myself as a holy cow before Al
>>> - thanks for that one!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 16 December 2014 08:49:37 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You are right Gabby  Do not kill the holy cow..  (",)
>>>>
>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>>>> To: "[email protected]
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>" <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 9:45 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>
>>>> It is some sort of sentimental streak that I have identified that keeps
>>>> me from not objecting to "the master is right" statements. I will work on
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Do not kill the Holy Cow.
>>>>
>>>> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2014 schrieb :
>>>>
>>>>> Neil is right Gabby.  Minds eye is a discussion group. . It is open to
>>>>> any topic. Writers block is a valid topic because you are objecting so 
>>>>> much
>>>>> my guess would be you are suffering from writer's block.
>>>>> Unfortunately that means we put up with a lot of BS from everyone. If
>>>>> you don't like the topic the easiest way to deal with it is not respond. I
>>>>> know that is to simple of a solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 1:43 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>
>>>>> Write the note so we can cut and paste Gabby.  One of those cards in
>>>>> the window of a cosmopolitan guest house would do, or none at all to
>>>>> indicate we take hospitality for granted.  You always were the sweetest
>>>>> goose.  My eyes are warm brown.  Democracies with few ideas or
>>>>> contributions are hard.  I was not my own candidate in the mod game - you
>>>>> were.  The ears of democracy were deaf and so achieved default by default.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, December 15, 2014 12:41:39 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would not cause problems if we made this group site your writer's
>>>>>> blog. Democratic principles have never managed to enter this space here
>>>>>> anyhow.  Your input activities have kept the group communication process
>>>>>> alive for the past years, so we might as well fully face reality and do
>>>>>> something ourselves to get you out of here and into the world. That way 
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> could also try to legitimize the blue eye without feeling too much shame.
>>>>>> Speaking of shame and mental blockage, yes, it helps to be German to be
>>>>>> able to violate English language parameters and principles. Universal
>>>>>> grammar principles have been shown to be violable by speakers of all 
>>>>>> kinds
>>>>>> though. Which is why I recommend you changed the welcome note and turned 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> into a real welcome note. Cross out all the things that show how much
>>>>>> unpleasant experiences you expect to occur and how you are prepared to
>>>>>> cross them out. A short but friendly welcome note will do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am Samstag, 13. Dezember 2014 02:36:57 UTC+1 schrieb archytas:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck as ever Molly.  I once had a cat that learned to type and
>>>>>>> turned my thesis into Greek.  The dogs aren't being much help, lying 
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> bored when I produce the great work and leaping to enthusiasm only when
>>>>>>> they hear the noise of Windows 10 signing off.  They have decided this
>>>>>>> means 'walkies;.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:15:01 AM UTC, Molly wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Writing block is a force to be reckoned with. When we can't
>>>>>>>> express, we can only be still, until the expression begins again. Good
>>>>>>>> luck, my friend. As for me, I am entering the season of hectic 
>>>>>>>> calling. I
>>>>>>>> will miss you all in the duration, and will try to chime in from time 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> time. I love it here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:47:46 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Odd how easily we get suckered into such as 'bad spelling', the
>>>>>>>>> shame of the misplaced apostrophe, barking spelling rules like i 
>>>>>>>>> before e
>>>>>>>>> except after c (no doubt like seize) and 'for who the bell tolls' (it
>>>>>>>>> shouldn't be whom according to the rules).  I actually thought 
>>>>>>>>> 'histarical'
>>>>>>>>> describes us both to a T at times and Gabby all of the time (not 
>>>>>>>>> really) -
>>>>>>>>> so why should it be a spelling mistak?  Gabbs won't understand none 
>>>>>>>>> of this
>>>>>>>>> Charlie, on the grounds of being dragged up in the logically ruthless
>>>>>>>>> German language in which one must tomorrow navel with head in clouds 
>>>>>>>>> gaze
>>>>>>>>> the dative case, bright as a button being in the creation of words so 
>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>> they probably their own internal syntax haben.  To make up for this 
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> drop the a in 'I am a Berliner'.  Endless supplies of paper we not 
>>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>>> Sweden army trees and small army have.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My English teachers had nice legs.  I remember little else other
>>>>>>>>> than the trauma of the Oxford comma and the brutality of the future
>>>>>>>>> pluperfect.  German and Russian came as blessed relief from the 
>>>>>>>>> language of
>>>>>>>>> world domination, now wrenched from the Queen's fair hands by 
>>>>>>>>> Americans
>>>>>>>>> with no language of their own.  I was told I would need these foreign
>>>>>>>>> languages, along with Latin to better understand Greek and read 
>>>>>>>>> scientific
>>>>>>>>> papers written by the only foreigners literate in it.  Turned out
>>>>>>>>> everything about Greeks and Romans was an extended lie of the Catholic
>>>>>>>>> Church and German and Russian scientists bright enough to translate 
>>>>>>>>> papers
>>>>>>>>> to English.  They dropped the requirement doctors speak Latin on the 
>>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>> they started teaching it to me.  Doctors, of course, never wrote 
>>>>>>>>> Latin, but
>>>>>>>>> this does explain why their handwriting is so bad.  They just haven't
>>>>>>>>> dropped the habit of covering up their lack of Latin.  It is a matter 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> great regret I never discovered who or what was sucking out the 
>>>>>>>>> brains of
>>>>>>>>> my contemporaries to make them think.  At some point, I strumbled 
>>>>>>>>> (another
>>>>>>>>> word we should put to more use) into computer coding.  Here one 
>>>>>>>>> discovers
>>>>>>>>> that coding is very boring and relies on understanding nothing human 
>>>>>>>>> beings
>>>>>>>>> say makes sense to machines far brighter than we are, able to 
>>>>>>>>> translate all
>>>>>>>>> languages through statistical methods badly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Get out that fiddle Allan and we'll jamm some histarical stom
>>>>>>>>> strumble.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 4:04:29 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know my spelling is bad.. but it is better than it was.  A good
>>>>>>>>>> brain stoming session is good if fellow participants have brains.
>>>>>>>>>> Good starting point.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 9:36 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think we have the idea of the 'solo artist' quite wrong.
>>>>>>>>>> Collaboration with others is often awful - I really have been to
>>>>>>>>>> brainstorming sessions of truly brainless proportion - and I long 
>>>>>>>>>> abandoned
>>>>>>>>>> other academics in anything where I was responsible for deadlines - 
>>>>>>>>>> yet I
>>>>>>>>>> miss the contributions of others now I've gone solo and still can't 
>>>>>>>>>> shake
>>>>>>>>>> off what we might call 'audience pressures' or find a voice (though 
>>>>>>>>>> I can
>>>>>>>>>> still get through 3 hours of lecturing with discomfort only amongst 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> poor souls that have to listen).  'Histarical' sounds wonderfully
>>>>>>>>>> descriptive of something you and I experience Al.  The Engleesh 
>>>>>>>>>> teechers
>>>>>>>>>> will never allow it though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to do something like my teaching strategy - largely
>>>>>>>>>> based on an early threat that my job was to install a thick textbook 
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> unbelievable tedium in the heads of students, followed by an offer 
>>>>>>>>>> to throw
>>>>>>>>>> it in the bin if they would have a go at finding something they 
>>>>>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>>>>>> do.  A kind if make your own mind up novel.  I managed this in case 
>>>>>>>>>> study
>>>>>>>>>> by encouraging investigation outside the written material.  I think 
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> happened to me was getting used to writing in hyper-text to be 
>>>>>>>>>> filled out
>>>>>>>>>> by others and too used to marking all the work as though I was the
>>>>>>>>>> audience.  I am not alone, as an academic, in reading Kierkegaard as 
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> Danish comic (the Nordics will wait much longer for a joke than us) 
>>>>>>>>>> - but I
>>>>>>>>>> can't find a way to write the bigger farce of language as deception, 
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>> than in some turgid academy-speak on such as law courts pretending 
>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>> rational while acting out Freud's Oedipal theatre.  Histarical!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:26:06 AM UTC, Allan Heretic
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But what would I know, I seem to be trapped where time is
>>>>>>>>>>> nothing more than a histarical marker.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 7:18 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you see if the tinsel is being worn inside or on top of the
>>>>>>>>>>> blue velvet?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:58:19 AM UTC, Allan Heretic
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what your colleague is saying. As for brains that
>>>>>>>>>>>> is why I oftentimes why I find myself sitting  on the side of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> hill. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> left wondering if most of the world has turned into a tinsel town?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 2:07 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Creativity is free without copyright protection.  Walking into
>>>>>>>>>>>> a brainstorming session it is tempting to ask 'where are the other 
>>>>>>>>>>>> brains
>>>>>>>>>>>> then'?  Even the invention of physics outside space-time doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>> get one
>>>>>>>>>>>> out-from-under that manoeuvre, especially when pertinent to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> reality!  What
>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone in the galaxy hates most is a wise-ass.  A colleague once 
>>>>>>>>>>>> told me
>>>>>>>>>>>> she couldn't stand even minor distractions like people talking at 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the back,
>>>>>>>>>>>> always thinking they might be saying something more interesting 
>>>>>>>>>>>> than she
>>>>>>>>>>>> was.  I was able to assure her this could not be true, as no one 
>>>>>>>>>>>> had ever
>>>>>>>>>>>> said anything interesting in one of her classes.  'Must have SOH' 
>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> general personality demand - yet most react to harmless jibes with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> revenge
>>>>>>>>>>>> and advertising as harmless.  Brilliant riposte - I've just spent 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 hours
>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing the ultimate block to my writing - malfunctioning Microsoft 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Office -
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed a smile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One might try writing on the important, but no one is
>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in that without the guru act.  My aliens have it that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the prime
>>>>>>>>>>>> directive of human languages is deception.  Few humans can take 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this deadly
>>>>>>>>>>>> seriousness with a smile.  Sadly the aliens don't use money and I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>> rely on the human audience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:47:07 PM UTC, facilitator
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My first reaction is to try and respond with a clever yet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reciprocating idea but I don't want to hate myself after I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> posted it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A response to this requires thought.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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