Could do with a bottle.  Finally got sick of Microsoft and Dell 'fixes' and 
got the 'soldering iron' out to sort this laptop with some old bits from 
others.

On Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:22:59 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> So that is the secret of Scots Whisky it all in the heavy water..
>
> ~~
> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين 
> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: archytas <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 8:07
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>
> Scotch at least is blameless.  Blame cultures are at least a bit more 
> accountable than 'learning lessons'.  The meek can inherit the Moon, but 
> not our helium-three rights!
>
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:34:59 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> No  not blame Tony,,  with him I not sure which moon he was referring to.
>>
>> ~~
>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين 
>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:31
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>
>> Fantasic reply! Blame it on Tony! Go for it. He is relatively new to this 
>> group, it must be him!
>>
>> Am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2014 schrieb :
>>
>>> Don't know I am trying to figure out if Tony was getting a bit cheeky. .
>>>
>>> ~~
>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين 
>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:26
>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>
>>> The Scotch animal. So so. More wise keys anyone?
>>>
>>> Am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2014 schrieb archytas :
>>>
>>>> Beautiful poetry.  Is there any German for goose-gabbsed yet?  It 
>>>> sounds like something that could only happen to an Englishman.  Thank 
>>>> goodness I'm Scots.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:17:02 AM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It could actually be very tiring to serve the system of embracing the 
>>>>> paradox of being  goose  gabbsed in order to allow the natural superpower 
>>>>> to delve in fantastic  memories of milk&honey lands. Paradise is not 
>>>>> lost, 
>>>>> the anti-islamic freedom fighters will bark us the way back and so on and 
>>>>> so on. But - au contraire - this primitive echo chamber of cheap 
>>>>> stereotypes keeps reminding me of the importance of staying awake. Thank 
>>>>> you all. :)
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 17.12.2014 um 00:58 schrieb archytas <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gabby is right, of course or jawohl.  Direction is often what screws 
>>>>> us.  Most university courses in management have some pot-boiler content 
>>>>> on 
>>>>> 'motivation at work' that excludes what is done to get us into work 
>>>>> situations in the first place.  The aim is to get get students to hack 
>>>>> out 
>>>>> answers from this content without ever thinking.  No doubt my insistence 
>>>>> on 
>>>>> them thinking for themselves was equally directive.  I also taught the 
>>>>> equivalent of getting them to read keynotes like those that let you give 
>>>>> the answers teachers want on Jane Eyre and the rest without reading the 
>>>>> novel.  Some of the most directive and awful management teaching concerns 
>>>>> personal development.  The best I managed was to let my students know how 
>>>>> little I know, though the Socratic irony is even this is to know more 
>>>>> than 
>>>>> people who read management books thinking acting as they instruct is 
>>>>> remotely moral.  One of my own teachers, asked to give us what had been 
>>>>> important to him gave us two bits of plain paper.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what do YOU think people?  I used to give out half-a-dozen 
>>>>> potential assignments.  The last question was always 'think one up 
>>>>> yourselves'.  This had few takers, though all the best work came from 
>>>>> those 
>>>>> that chose this option.  One or two were smart enough to negotiate doing 
>>>>> nothing, offering me the opportunity of having nothing to mark.  Anthony 
>>>>> Flew is supposed to have answered the question 'what is courage?' with 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> two words 'this is' as an undergraduate.  Gabby will no doubt tell us 
>>>>> this 
>>>>> wasn't minimalist enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> False enthusiasm is now taught in teacher training.  You've just got 
>>>>> to lurve them sums and keep beating this enthusiasm into kids that can't 
>>>>> do 
>>>>> them.  We might ask the holy cows - they have fairly complex language if 
>>>>> one bothers to listen to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:01:03 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROGLMAO. The Holy Cow thing is from Gabby's new tag line. . It is not 
>>>>>> my idea.. the olden calf thing is her's also.. don't want credit for 
>>>>>> great 
>>>>>> ideas. 
>>>>>> Actually when you think about it minds eye is our sacred cow..  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what is the topic for barn storming in the Holy Cow of Minds Eye? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:28
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It might be a case of working out where hostility arises and who is 
>>>>>> trying to master whom.  I had not thought of myself as a holy cow before 
>>>>>> Al 
>>>>>> - thanks for that one!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 16 December 2014 08:49:37 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are right Gabby  Do not kill the holy cow..  (",)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 9:45 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is some sort of sentimental streak that I have identified that 
>>>>>>> keeps me from not objecting to "the master is right" statements. I will 
>>>>>>> work on that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Do not kill the Holy Cow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2014 schrieb :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neil is right Gabby.  Minds eye is a discussion group. . It is open 
>>>>>>>> to any topic. Writers block is a valid topic because you are objecting 
>>>>>>>> so 
>>>>>>>> much my guess would be you are suffering from writer's block. 
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately that means we put up with a lot of BS from everyone. 
>>>>>>>> If you don't like the topic the easiest way to deal with it is not 
>>>>>>>> respond. 
>>>>>>>> I know that is to simple of a solution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 1:43 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Write the note so we can cut and paste Gabby.  One of those cards 
>>>>>>>> in the window of a cosmopolitan guest house would do, or none at all 
>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>> indicate we take hospitality for granted.  You always were the 
>>>>>>>> sweetest 
>>>>>>>> goose.  My eyes are warm brown.  Democracies with few ideas or 
>>>>>>>> contributions are hard.  I was not my own candidate in the mod game - 
>>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>>> were.  The ears of democracy were deaf and so achieved default by 
>>>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, December 15, 2014 12:41:39 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would not cause problems if we made this group site your 
>>>>>>>>> writer's blog. Democratic principles have never managed to enter this 
>>>>>>>>> space 
>>>>>>>>> here anyhow.  Your input activities have kept the group communication 
>>>>>>>>> process alive for the past years, so we might as well fully face 
>>>>>>>>> reality 
>>>>>>>>> and do something ourselves to get you out of here and into the world. 
>>>>>>>>> That 
>>>>>>>>> way we could also try to legitimize the blue eye without feeling too 
>>>>>>>>> much 
>>>>>>>>> shame. Speaking of shame and mental blockage, yes, it helps to be 
>>>>>>>>> German to 
>>>>>>>>> be able to violate English language parameters and principles. 
>>>>>>>>> Universal 
>>>>>>>>> grammar principles have been shown to be violable by speakers of all 
>>>>>>>>> kinds 
>>>>>>>>> though. Which is why I recommend you changed the welcome note and 
>>>>>>>>> turned it 
>>>>>>>>> into a real welcome note. Cross out all the things that show how much 
>>>>>>>>> unpleasant experiences you expect to occur and how you are prepared 
>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>> cross them out. A short but friendly welcome note will do. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 13. Dezember 2014 02:36:57 UTC+1 schrieb archytas:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck as ever Molly.  I once had a cat that learned to type 
>>>>>>>>>> and turned my thesis into Greek.  The dogs aren't being much help, 
>>>>>>>>>> lying 
>>>>>>>>>> about bored when I produce the great work and leaping to enthusiasm 
>>>>>>>>>> only 
>>>>>>>>>> when they hear the noise of Windows 10 signing off.  They have 
>>>>>>>>>> decided this 
>>>>>>>>>> means 'walkies;.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:15:01 AM UTC, Molly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Writing block is a force to be reckoned with. When we can't 
>>>>>>>>>>> express, we can only be still, until the expression begins again. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Good 
>>>>>>>>>>> luck, my friend. As for me, I am entering the season of hectic 
>>>>>>>>>>> calling. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> will miss you all in the duration, and will try to chime in from 
>>>>>>>>>>> time to 
>>>>>>>>>>> time. I love it here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:47:46 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd how easily we get suckered into such as 'bad spelling', the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> shame of the misplaced apostrophe, barking spelling rules like i 
>>>>>>>>>>>> before e 
>>>>>>>>>>>> except after c (no doubt like seize) and 'for who the bell tolls' 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't be whom according to the rules).  I actually thought 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'histarical' 
>>>>>>>>>>>> describes us both to a T at times and Gabby all of the time (not 
>>>>>>>>>>>> really) - 
>>>>>>>>>>>> so why should it be a spelling mistak?  Gabbs won't understand 
>>>>>>>>>>>> none of this 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie, on the grounds of being dragged up in the logically 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ruthless 
>>>>>>>>>>>> German language in which one must tomorrow navel with head in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> clouds gaze 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the dative case, bright as a button being in the creation of words 
>>>>>>>>>>>> so long 
>>>>>>>>>>>> they probably their own internal syntax haben.  To make up for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this they 
>>>>>>>>>>>> drop the a in 'I am a Berliner'.  Endless supplies of paper we not 
>>>>>>>>>>>> though 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sweden army trees and small army have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My English teachers had nice legs.  I remember little else 
>>>>>>>>>>>> other than the trauma of the Oxford comma and the brutality of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> future 
>>>>>>>>>>>> pluperfect.  German and Russian came as blessed relief from the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> language of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> world domination, now wrenched from the Queen's fair hands by 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans 
>>>>>>>>>>>> with no language of their own.  I was told I would need these 
>>>>>>>>>>>> foreign 
>>>>>>>>>>>> languages, along with Latin to better understand Greek and read 
>>>>>>>>>>>> scientific 
>>>>>>>>>>>> papers written by the only foreigners literate in it.  Turned out 
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything about Greeks and Romans was an extended lie of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholic 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Church and German and Russian scientists bright enough to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> translate papers 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to English.  They dropped the requirement doctors speak Latin on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the day 
>>>>>>>>>>>> they started teaching it to me.  Doctors, of course, never wrote 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Latin, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this does explain why their handwriting is so bad.  They just 
>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't 
>>>>>>>>>>>> dropped the habit of covering up their lack of Latin.  It is a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> matter of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> great regret I never discovered who or what was sucking out the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> brains of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> my contemporaries to make them think.  At some point, I strumbled 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (another 
>>>>>>>>>>>> word we should put to more use) into computer coding.  Here one 
>>>>>>>>>>>> discovers 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that coding is very boring and relies on understanding nothing 
>>>>>>>>>>>> human beings 
>>>>>>>>>>>> say makes sense to machines far brighter than we are, able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> translate all 
>>>>>>>>>>>> languages through statistical methods badly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Get out that fiddle Allan and we'll jamm some histarical stom 
>>>>>>>>>>>> strumble. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 4:04:29 PM UTC, Allan Heretic 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know my spelling is bad.. but it is better than it was.  A 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> good brain stoming session is good if fellow participants have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good starting point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 9:36 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we have the idea of the 'solo artist' quite wrong.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collaboration with others is often awful - I really have been to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brainstorming sessions of truly brainless proportion - and I long 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> abandoned 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other academics in anything where I was responsible for deadlines 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - yet I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> miss the contributions of others now I've gone solo and still 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't shake 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> off what we might call 'audience pressures' or find a voice 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (though I can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still get through 3 hours of lecturing with discomfort only 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> amongst the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> poor souls that have to listen).  'Histarical' sounds wonderfully 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptive of something you and I experience Al.  The Engleesh 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> teechers 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will never allow it though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to do something like my teaching strategy - largely 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on an early threat that my job was to install a thick 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> textbook of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unbelievable tedium in the heads of students, followed by an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> offer to throw 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in the bin if they would have a go at finding something they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do.  A kind if make your own mind up novel.  I managed this in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> case study 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by encouraging investigation outside the written material.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened to me was getting used to writing in hyper-text to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled out 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by others and too used to marking all the work as though I was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience.  I am not alone, as an academic, in reading Kierkegaard 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danish comic (the Nordics will wait much longer for a joke than 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> us) - but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't find a way to write the bigger farce of language as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deception, other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than in some turgid academy-speak on such as law courts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretending to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rational while acting out Freud's Oedipal theatre.  Histarical!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:26:06 AM UTC, Allan Heretic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But what would I know, I seem to be trapped where time is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing more than a histarical marker.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 7:18 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you see if the tinsel is being worn inside or on top of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the blue velvet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:58:19 AM UTC, Allan Heretic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what your colleague is saying. As for brains 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is why I oftentimes why I find myself sitting  on the side 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hill. I'm left wondering if most of the world has turned into a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinsel town?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 2:07 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Creativity is free without copyright protection.  Walking 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a brainstorming session it is tempting to ask 'where are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brains then'?  Even the invention of physics outside space-time 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one out-from-under that manoeuvre, especially when pertinent to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality!  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What everyone in the galaxy hates most is a wise-ass.  A 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colleague once 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told me she couldn't stand even minor distractions like people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the back, always thinking they might be saying something more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than she was.  I was able to assure her this could not be true, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as no one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had ever said anything interesting in one of her classes.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Must have SOH' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a general personality demand - yet most react to harmless 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jibes with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revenge and advertising as harmless.  Brilliant riposte - I've 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just spent 3 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours fixing the ultimate block to my writing - malfunctioning 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office - needed a smile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One might try writing on the important, but no one is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in that without the guru act.  My aliens have it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the prime 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directive of human languages is deception.  Few humans can take 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this deadly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seriousness with a smile.  Sadly the aliens don't use money and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rely on the human audience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:47:07 PM UTC, facilitator 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My first reaction is to try and respond with a clever yet 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reciprocating idea but I don't want to hate myself after I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have posted it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A response to this requires thought.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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