No  not blame Tony,,  with him I not sure which moon he was referring to.

~~
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-----Original Message-----
From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:31
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block

Fantasic reply! Blame it on Tony! Go for it. He is relatively new to this
group, it must be him!

Am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2014 schrieb :

> Don't know I am trying to figure out if Tony was getting a bit cheeky. .
>
> ~~
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gabbydott <[email protected]
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> To: "[email protected]
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> [email protected]
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> Sent: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:26
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>
> The Scotch animal. So so. More wise keys anyone?
>
> Am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2014 schrieb archytas :
>
>> Beautiful poetry.  Is there any German for goose-gabbsed yet?  It sounds
>> like something that could only happen to an Englishman.  Thank goodness I'm
>> Scots.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:17:02 AM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>
>>> It could actually be very tiring to serve the system of embracing the
>>> paradox of being  goose  gabbsed in order to allow the natural superpower
>>> to delve in fantastic  memories of milk&honey lands. Paradise is not lost,
>>> the anti-islamic freedom fighters will bark us the way back and so on and
>>> so on. But - au contraire - this primitive echo chamber of cheap
>>> stereotypes keeps reminding me of the importance of staying awake. Thank
>>> you all. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 17.12.2014 um 00:58 schrieb archytas <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>> Gabby is right, of course or jawohl.  Direction is often what screws
>>> us.  Most university courses in management have some pot-boiler content on
>>> 'motivation at work' that excludes what is done to get us into work
>>> situations in the first place.  The aim is to get get students to hack out
>>> answers from this content without ever thinking.  No doubt my insistence on
>>> them thinking for themselves was equally directive.  I also taught the
>>> equivalent of getting them to read keynotes like those that let you give
>>> the answers teachers want on Jane Eyre and the rest without reading the
>>> novel.  Some of the most directive and awful management teaching concerns
>>> personal development.  The best I managed was to let my students know how
>>> little I know, though the Socratic irony is even this is to know more than
>>> people who read management books thinking acting as they instruct is
>>> remotely moral.  One of my own teachers, asked to give us what had been
>>> important to him gave us two bits of plain paper.
>>>
>>> So what do YOU think people?  I used to give out half-a-dozen potential
>>> assignments.  The last question was always 'think one up yourselves'.  This
>>> had few takers, though all the best work came from those that chose this
>>> option.  One or two were smart enough to negotiate doing nothing, offering
>>> me the opportunity of having nothing to mark.  Anthony Flew is supposed to
>>> have answered the question 'what is courage?' with the two words 'this is'
>>> as an undergraduate.  Gabby will no doubt tell us this wasn't minimalist
>>> enough.
>>>
>>> False enthusiasm is now taught in teacher training.  You've just got to
>>> lurve them sums and keep beating this enthusiasm into kids that can't do
>>> them.  We might ask the holy cows - they have fairly complex language if
>>> one bothers to listen to them.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:01:03 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ROGLMAO. The Holy Cow thing is from Gabby's new tag line. . It is not
>>>> my idea.. the olden calf thing is her's also.. don't want credit for great
>>>> ideas.
>>>> Actually when you think about it minds eye is our sacred cow..
>>>>
>>>> So what is the topic for barn storming in the Holy Cow of Minds Eye?
>>>>
>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:28
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>
>>>> It might be a case of working out where hostility arises and who is
>>>> trying to master whom.  I had not thought of myself as a holy cow before Al
>>>> - thanks for that one!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 16 December 2014 08:49:37 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You are right Gabby  Do not kill the holy cow..  (",)
>>>>>
>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 9:45 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>
>>>>> It is some sort of sentimental streak that I have identified that
>>>>> keeps me from not objecting to "the master is right" statements. I will
>>>>> work on that.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Do not kill the Holy Cow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2014 schrieb :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil is right Gabby.  Minds eye is a discussion group. . It is open
>>>>>> to any topic. Writers block is a valid topic because you are objecting so
>>>>>> much my guess would be you are suffering from writer's block.
>>>>>> Unfortunately that means we put up with a lot of BS from everyone. If
>>>>>> you don't like the topic the easiest way to deal with it is not respond. 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> know that is to simple of a solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 1:43 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Write the note so we can cut and paste Gabby.  One of those cards in
>>>>>> the window of a cosmopolitan guest house would do, or none at all to
>>>>>> indicate we take hospitality for granted.  You always were the sweetest
>>>>>> goose.  My eyes are warm brown.  Democracies with few ideas or
>>>>>> contributions are hard.  I was not my own candidate in the mod game - you
>>>>>> were.  The ears of democracy were deaf and so achieved default by 
>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, December 15, 2014 12:41:39 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would not cause problems if we made this group site your writer's
>>>>>>> blog. Democratic principles have never managed to enter this space here
>>>>>>> anyhow.  Your input activities have kept the group communication process
>>>>>>> alive for the past years, so we might as well fully face reality and do
>>>>>>> something ourselves to get you out of here and into the world. That way 
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> could also try to legitimize the blue eye without feeling too much 
>>>>>>> shame.
>>>>>>> Speaking of shame and mental blockage, yes, it helps to be German to be
>>>>>>> able to violate English language parameters and principles. Universal
>>>>>>> grammar principles have been shown to be violable by speakers of all 
>>>>>>> kinds
>>>>>>> though. Which is why I recommend you changed the welcome note and 
>>>>>>> turned it
>>>>>>> into a real welcome note. Cross out all the things that show how much
>>>>>>> unpleasant experiences you expect to occur and how you are prepared to
>>>>>>> cross them out. A short but friendly welcome note will do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 13. Dezember 2014 02:36:57 UTC+1 schrieb archytas:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck as ever Molly.  I once had a cat that learned to type and
>>>>>>>> turned my thesis into Greek.  The dogs aren't being much help, lying 
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> bored when I produce the great work and leaping to enthusiasm only when
>>>>>>>> they hear the noise of Windows 10 signing off.  They have decided this
>>>>>>>> means 'walkies;.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:15:01 AM UTC, Molly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Writing block is a force to be reckoned with. When we can't
>>>>>>>>> express, we can only be still, until the expression begins again. Good
>>>>>>>>> luck, my friend. As for me, I am entering the season of hectic 
>>>>>>>>> calling. I
>>>>>>>>> will miss you all in the duration, and will try to chime in from time 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> time. I love it here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:47:46 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Odd how easily we get suckered into such as 'bad spelling', the
>>>>>>>>>> shame of the misplaced apostrophe, barking spelling rules like i 
>>>>>>>>>> before e
>>>>>>>>>> except after c (no doubt like seize) and 'for who the bell tolls' (it
>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't be whom according to the rules).  I actually thought 
>>>>>>>>>> 'histarical'
>>>>>>>>>> describes us both to a T at times and Gabby all of the time (not 
>>>>>>>>>> really) -
>>>>>>>>>> so why should it be a spelling mistak?  Gabbs won't understand none 
>>>>>>>>>> of this
>>>>>>>>>> Charlie, on the grounds of being dragged up in the logically ruthless
>>>>>>>>>> German language in which one must tomorrow navel with head in clouds 
>>>>>>>>>> gaze
>>>>>>>>>> the dative case, bright as a button being in the creation of words 
>>>>>>>>>> so long
>>>>>>>>>> they probably their own internal syntax haben.  To make up for this 
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> drop the a in 'I am a Berliner'.  Endless supplies of paper we not 
>>>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>>>> Sweden army trees and small army have.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My English teachers had nice legs.  I remember little else other
>>>>>>>>>> than the trauma of the Oxford comma and the brutality of the future
>>>>>>>>>> pluperfect.  German and Russian came as blessed relief from the 
>>>>>>>>>> language of
>>>>>>>>>> world domination, now wrenched from the Queen's fair hands by 
>>>>>>>>>> Americans
>>>>>>>>>> with no language of their own.  I was told I would need these foreign
>>>>>>>>>> languages, along with Latin to better understand Greek and read 
>>>>>>>>>> scientific
>>>>>>>>>> papers written by the only foreigners literate in it.  Turned out
>>>>>>>>>> everything about Greeks and Romans was an extended lie of the 
>>>>>>>>>> Catholic
>>>>>>>>>> Church and German and Russian scientists bright enough to translate 
>>>>>>>>>> papers
>>>>>>>>>> to English.  They dropped the requirement doctors speak Latin on the 
>>>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>>> they started teaching it to me.  Doctors, of course, never wrote 
>>>>>>>>>> Latin, but
>>>>>>>>>> this does explain why their handwriting is so bad.  They just haven't
>>>>>>>>>> dropped the habit of covering up their lack of Latin.  It is a 
>>>>>>>>>> matter of
>>>>>>>>>> great regret I never discovered who or what was sucking out the 
>>>>>>>>>> brains of
>>>>>>>>>> my contemporaries to make them think.  At some point, I strumbled 
>>>>>>>>>> (another
>>>>>>>>>> word we should put to more use) into computer coding.  Here one 
>>>>>>>>>> discovers
>>>>>>>>>> that coding is very boring and relies on understanding nothing human 
>>>>>>>>>> beings
>>>>>>>>>> say makes sense to machines far brighter than we are, able to 
>>>>>>>>>> translate all
>>>>>>>>>> languages through statistical methods badly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Get out that fiddle Allan and we'll jamm some histarical stom
>>>>>>>>>> strumble.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 4:04:29 PM UTC, Allan Heretic
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know my spelling is bad.. but it is better than it was.  A
>>>>>>>>>>> good brain stoming session is good if fellow participants have 
>>>>>>>>>>> brains.
>>>>>>>>>>> Good starting point.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 9:36 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we have the idea of the 'solo artist' quite wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>> Collaboration with others is often awful - I really have been to
>>>>>>>>>>> brainstorming sessions of truly brainless proportion - and I long 
>>>>>>>>>>> abandoned
>>>>>>>>>>> other academics in anything where I was responsible for deadlines - 
>>>>>>>>>>> yet I
>>>>>>>>>>> miss the contributions of others now I've gone solo and still can't 
>>>>>>>>>>> shake
>>>>>>>>>>> off what we might call 'audience pressures' or find a voice (though 
>>>>>>>>>>> I can
>>>>>>>>>>> still get through 3 hours of lecturing with discomfort only amongst 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> poor souls that have to listen).  'Histarical' sounds wonderfully
>>>>>>>>>>> descriptive of something you and I experience Al.  The Engleesh 
>>>>>>>>>>> teechers
>>>>>>>>>>> will never allow it though.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to do something like my teaching strategy - largely
>>>>>>>>>>> based on an early threat that my job was to install a thick 
>>>>>>>>>>> textbook of
>>>>>>>>>>> unbelievable tedium in the heads of students, followed by an offer 
>>>>>>>>>>> to throw
>>>>>>>>>>> it in the bin if they would have a go at finding something they 
>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>>>>>>> do.  A kind if make your own mind up novel.  I managed this in case 
>>>>>>>>>>> study
>>>>>>>>>>> by encouraging investigation outside the written material.  I think 
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> happened to me was getting used to writing in hyper-text to be 
>>>>>>>>>>> filled out
>>>>>>>>>>> by others and too used to marking all the work as though I was the
>>>>>>>>>>> audience.  I am not alone, as an academic, in reading Kierkegaard 
>>>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>>>>> Danish comic (the Nordics will wait much longer for a joke than us) 
>>>>>>>>>>> - but I
>>>>>>>>>>> can't find a way to write the bigger farce of language as 
>>>>>>>>>>> deception, other
>>>>>>>>>>> than in some turgid academy-speak on such as law courts pretending 
>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>> rational while acting out Freud's Oedipal theatre.  Histarical!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:26:06 AM UTC, Allan Heretic
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But what would I know, I seem to be trapped where time is
>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing more than a histarical marker.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 7:18 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you see if the tinsel is being worn inside or on top of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> blue velvet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:58:19 AM UTC, Allan Heretic
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what your colleague is saying. As for brains that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why I oftentimes why I find myself sitting  on the side of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hill. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> left wondering if most of the world has turned into a tinsel town?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 2:07 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Writing Block
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Creativity is free without copyright protection.  Walking into
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brainstorming session it is tempting to ask 'where are the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other brains
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then'?  Even the invention of physics outside space-time doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out-from-under that manoeuvre, especially when pertinent to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality!  What
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone in the galaxy hates most is a wise-ass.  A colleague 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> once told me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> she couldn't stand even minor distractions like people talking at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the back,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> always thinking they might be saying something more interesting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than she
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was.  I was able to assure her this could not be true, as no one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said anything interesting in one of her classes.  'Must have SOH' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> general personality demand - yet most react to harmless jibes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with revenge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and advertising as harmless.  Brilliant riposte - I've just spent 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing the ultimate block to my writing - malfunctioning 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft Office -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed a smile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One might try writing on the important, but no one is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in that without the guru act.  My aliens have it that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the prime
>>>>>>>>>>>>> directive of human languages is deception.  Few humans can take 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this deadly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seriousness with a smile.  Sadly the aliens don't use money and I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rely on the human audience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:47:07 PM UTC, facilitator
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My first reaction is to try and respond with a clever yet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reciprocating idea but I don't want to hate myself after I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posted it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A response to this requires thought.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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