Thank you very much for speaking out once more, Andrew. As for the painting
in negative light, I really think we need an update into the more
dimensional world. I have seen so many
if-only-those-m****f****-had-their-shadows-integrated paintings these days
that I ask myself when we will be sold the cave equation as the latest
3D shit? Do no harm was better than all the succeeding do not&avoid others
otherings - in the felt absence of external power the cavewall paintings
become more and more alive to fill the vacuum. Wrong way Allan.

Am Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2015 schrieb andrew vecsey :

> Allan. I once apologized for your hypocrisy and rudeness to a new member
> and you got very angry at me for speaking on your behalf. And now you did
> the same thing to Gabby. By painting Gabby in a negative light to a new
> member is not very nice. What happened to your old signature that stated
> "Do not hurt others"??  Hypocrisy and ignorance go very well together.
>
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 7:54:25 AM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> To Sue Linda i hope you are reading and i was looking forward to reading
>> your view point.
>> I apologise for Gabbies out burst, forgetting to greet you. She has a
>> dislike for my sig line  and makes it well known.. so you understand. She
>> told ud she was God's mom. The pains of child birth could be heard through
>> out the universe with the intense pain turned Gabby into a natural grouch
>> which has lasted for billion of years..
>> Hope you join us sincerely . There is always a internet pause that is no
>> fault of ours bùt rather one of the US home land security desìre to coppy
>> all the internet gabber..
>>
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 1:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on
>>
>> Sue Linda may be gone.  I did sign her up within a few hours of
>> application and click her off moderation.  Seems the inability to instant
>> post puts most off.  Hence gassing with Al.  Seems the way of things.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:28:45 UTC, Gabby wrote:
>>>
>>> Whose reality are you referring to, Allan? How does it contribute to
>>> welcoming Sue Linda? You have your granted advertising space for your
>>> sub-messages and you have started a Paris thread, but since there is
>>> no feedback traffic you hijack the next best thread for your purpose. And I
>>> tell you those in power know exactly about that reality.
>>>
>>> Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2015 22:02:48 UTC+1 schrieb Allan Heretic:
>>>>
>>>> The fight for freedom is not new. Niether is the war on terrorism ..
>>>> those want to freedom will be free. Just how it will happen but it will.
>>>>
>>>> Times are changing.  And what think no longer matters. Those in power
>>>> well what do they know about reality. ..
>>>>
>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 9:40 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on
>>>>
>>>> My view is we don't have freedom of expression and the media is in the
>>>> way.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 7:26:14 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> After thought i was watching the news  .. the other demonstration are
>>>>> what the news can deal with and promote. As the can stand off with noses
>>>>> high in the air  ..  Paris demonstrations are againt terrorism. It was a
>>>>> memorial march to remember those killed and for the freedom of speech.
>>>>>
>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 1:18 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you calling me a Frenchman Allan?  The last Scottish royals were
>>>>> all French (Robert le Bruce to the Stewarts) and took over England too,
>>>>> before letting the Dutch and Germans take over.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 9:36:39 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well that is what happens to a humble silversmith (not).. that is
>>>>>> what happens when you are  not Scottish royalty. .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Side entrances arevgreat for entering unnoticed. .an excellent
>>>>>> example is the fine gentleman that went in and visited the english 
>>>>>> gueen..
>>>>>> proof positive of...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome Sue.  Looking forward to hear what you have to say.
>>>>>>  (",)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:11 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The drawbridge is there - at the front.  You've been using the
>>>>>> tradesmans' entrance at the side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 3:04:53 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome Sue to minds eye..  i believe things have guiet because of
>>>>>>> the happenings in Paris.  Neil is protected by a large moat without a
>>>>>>> drawbridge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually yesterday's response is a fantastic notice to terrorist.
>>>>>>> Not in my name -- I am Charlie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 3:49 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sue Linda.  Feel free to join in.  We are a bit quiet at the
>>>>>>> moment, though sometimes manage to get ourselves going.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what would the implications of time be 4 billion years on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Would some archaeological historian be writing the relatively
>>>>>>> short history of an ape species with a deformed 24th chromosome pair, 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> evidence from the remains of a planet 'crisped' by its red giant star?
>>>>>>> 2. Could we 'travel' to the future if a species with 4 billion years
>>>>>>> more civilisation (now) happened along to colonise Mars and had a good
>>>>>>> neighbour intervention policy concerning 'primitives libidinising
>>>>>>> themselves to over-population and planet burning'?
>>>>>>> 3. Would even what we now think of as particles have developed 4
>>>>>>> billion years on in the evolving universe?
>>>>>>> 4. How would anyone returning to the present explain her years with
>>>>>>> the advanced civilisation to we 'plebs'?
>>>>>>> 5. What of techniques of future profiling we have now and their role
>>>>>>> in imagining and bringing change - a classic is called 'science fiction
>>>>>>> prototyping' - imagine the social structure of the future to work out 
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> products we should be working on now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm particularly interested on how science fiction makes the future
>>>>>>> full of our present and traditions - an example to me of non-imagination
>>>>>>> writ large and entertainment as diversion from creative practical
>>>>>>> solutions.  Sci-fi mags are full of guidelines not to write this dross, 
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> publish nothing else - chronic stuff like looking down at pot-holes with
>>>>>>> steel-toothed rats lurking at the bottom - standard fare on the walk 
>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>> after a few beers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some might remember Wittgenstein used to imagine up tribes and how
>>>>>>> they would have to invent language - so we might understand the nature 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> language without the preconceptions of the stuff we use out of habit.
>>>>>>> Imagine coming back here after years with a 4 billion year old 
>>>>>>> civilisation
>>>>>>> where honesty is the best policy because there is a technological 
>>>>>>> telepathy
>>>>>>> and trying to talk to others about it.
>>>>>>>
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