.I fell out with Socrates eons ago.. Gabby's immaturity i have had to put up with worse.. Past is past.. Been known by many names. Most of which is past and I like it that way it can stay buried .. what I like about where I am is I am under the radar. As for Gabby, and crew. They are their own heroes nothing will ever change that.
القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others -----Original Message----- From: archytas <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on Allan - on this form you would have fallen out with Socrates. No harm in falling out with someone eating at a free table provided by slaves, of course. I worked in factories where bad language was so inane even the odd mother would have been enlightening. The people were still capable of great dignity and kindness. We are too old for high horses - a cleaner may have polished the surface and we are no longer good at surviving falls to the hard floor beneath. We are hardly je suis charlie if we can't defend Gabby's right to tease us with our lives. Even if, returning bloodied and bruised, she will only tell us she can stand up for herself, and run off with a younger man or woman. Accusing someone who can flick us off in several languages as lacking vocabulary ain't it either. Gabby can be assured she could have my last cucumber sandwich, and will guess already I don't like them. If she was serious, the tanks would already be parked on your lawn. If you haven't got a lawn you know where to look. The 'girl' has wit enough to know I use the particular word in tease and not from some chronic anti-feminist old-fart patronisation - though it might be provocation to surface attitudes. What is unbecoming - a sophisticated woman swearing or old men telling her not to swear as though a child subject to reprimand? Gabby does throw up some deep questioning on the root metaphors that restrict our argument to the banal and wheel-reinvention. We don't get a lot of the references - as say we might not get what I have said about 'Elevatorgate' between Dawkins and Watson or references to ludicrous porn-feminism. In je suis charlie, it is convenient from western root metaphors to see the grim killers as Islamist nutters rather than products of western imperialism and to raise free expression as the issue when we have little. Writ large, did Germans "start" two world wars? Most are not even capable of taking such as a question for investigation and are hostile to anyone who might seek a different truth than that indoctrinated. I'd put it this way - offer Gabby an olive branch and she might take it off you and clout you round the head for presuming she was hostile in the first place. This would not be real violence, just an invitation to discuss 'origin' and perhaps what a world less prone to immediate hostility might be. On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 17:12:42 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Name calling and foul language is very becoming on you gabby. > If you don't like the vacuum why noy try anf fill it with intelligent. > original preferred. Rather than snarling venomous hatred. > > I have had the privilege of examining native American friends. The > information cave drawing convey is truely amazing if you know how to read > them.. you should not mock another person's culture.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: gabbydott <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 3:14 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on > > Thank you very much for speaking out once more, Andrew. As for the > painting in negative light, I really think we need an update into the more > dimensional world. I have seen so many > if-only-those-m****f****-had-their-shadows-integrated paintings these days > that I ask myself when we will be sold the cave equation as the latest > 3D shit? Do no harm was better than all the succeeding do not&avoid others > otherings - in the felt absence of external power the cavewall paintings > become more and more alive to fill the vacuum. Wrong way Allan. > > Am Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2015 schrieb andrew vecsey : > >> Allan. I once apologized for your hypocrisy and rudeness to a new member >> and you got very angry at me for speaking on your behalf. And now you did >> the same thing to Gabby. By painting Gabby in a negative light to a new >> member is not very nice. What happened to your old signature that stated >> "Do not hurt others"?? Hypocrisy and ignorance go very well together. >> >> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 7:54:25 AM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> To Sue Linda i hope you are reading and i was looking forward to reading >>> your view point. >>> I apologise for Gabbies out burst, forgetting to greet you. She has a >>> dislike for my sig line and makes it well known.. so you understand. She >>> told ud she was God's mom. The pains of child birth could be heard through >>> out the universe with the intense pain turned Gabby into a natural grouch >>> which has lasted for billion of years.. >>> Hope you join us sincerely . There is always a internet pause that is no >>> fault of ours bùt rather one of the US home land security desìre to coppy >>> all the internet gabber.. >>> >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 1:08 AM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on >>> >>> Sue Linda may be gone. I did sign her up within a few hours of >>> application and click her off moderation. Seems the inability to instant >>> post puts most off. Hence gassing with Al. Seems the way of things. >>> >>> On Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:28:45 UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>> >>>> Whose reality are you referring to, Allan? How does it contribute to >>>> welcoming Sue Linda? You have your granted advertising space for your >>>> sub-messages and you have started a Paris thread, but since there is >>>> no feedback traffic you hijack the next best thread for your purpose. And >>>> I >>>> tell you those in power know exactly about that reality. >>>> >>>> Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2015 22:02:48 UTC+1 schrieb Allan Heretic: >>>>> >>>>> The fight for freedom is not new. Niether is the war on terrorism .. >>>>> those want to freedom will be free. Just how it will happen but it will. >>>>> >>>>> Times are changing. And what think no longer matters. Those in power >>>>> well what do they know about reality. .. >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 9:40 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on >>>>> >>>>> My view is we don't have freedom of expression and the media is in the >>>>> way. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 7:26:14 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> After thought i was watching the news .. the other demonstration are >>>>>> what the news can deal with and promote. As the can stand off with noses >>>>>> high in the air .. Paris demonstrations are againt terrorism. It was a >>>>>> memorial march to remember those killed and for the freedom of speech. >>>>>> >>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 1:18 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years >>>>>> on >>>>>> >>>>>> Are you calling me a Frenchman Allan? The last Scottish royals were >>>>>> all French (Robert le Bruce to the Stewarts) and took over England too, >>>>>> before letting the Dutch and Germans take over. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 9:36:39 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well that is what happens to a humble silversmith (not).. that is >>>>>>> what happens when you are not Scottish royalty. . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Side entrances arevgreat for entering unnoticed. .an excellent >>>>>>> example is the fine gentleman that went in and visited the english >>>>>>> gueen.. >>>>>>> proof positive of... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Welcome Sue. Looking forward to hear what you have to say. >>>>>>> (",) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:11 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The drawbridge is there - at the front. You've been using the >>>>>>> tradesmans' entrance at the side. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 3:04:53 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Welcome Sue to minds eye.. i believe things have guiet because of >>>>>>>> the happenings in Paris. Neil is protected by a large moat without a >>>>>>>> drawbridge. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Actually yesterday's response is a fantastic notice to terrorist. >>>>>>>> Not in my name -- I am Charlie. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 3:49 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Sue Linda. Feel free to join in. We are a bit quiet at the >>>>>>>> moment, though sometimes manage to get ourselves going. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So what would the implications of time be 4 billion years on? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Would some archaeological historian be writing the relatively >>>>>>>> short history of an ape species with a deformed 24th chromosome pair, >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> evidence from the remains of a planet 'crisped' by its red giant star? >>>>>>>> 2. Could we 'travel' to the future if a species with 4 billion >>>>>>>> years more civilisation (now) happened along to colonise Mars and had >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> good neighbour intervention policy concerning 'primitives libidinising >>>>>>>> themselves to over-population and planet burning'? >>>>>>>> 3. Would even what we now think of as particles have developed 4 >>>>>>>> billion years on in the evolving universe? >>>>>>>> 4. How would anyone returning to the present explain her years with >>>>>>>> the advanced civilisation to we 'plebs'? >>>>>>>> 5. What of techniques of future profiling we have now and their >>>>>>>> role in imagining and bringing change - a classic is called 'science >>>>>>>> fiction prototyping' - imagine the social structure of the future to >>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>> out which products we should be working on now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm particularly interested on how science fiction makes the future >>>>>>>> full of our present and traditions - an example to me of >>>>>>>> non-imagination >>>>>>>> writ large and entertainment as diversion from creative practical >>>>>>>> solutions. Sci-fi mags are full of guidelines not to write this >>>>>>>> dross, but >>>>>>>> publish nothing else - chronic stuff like looking down at pot-holes >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> steel-toothed rats lurking at the bottom - standard fare on the walk >>>>>>>> home >>>>>>>> after a few beers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some might remember Wittgenstein used to imagine up tribes and how >>>>>>>> they would have to invent language - so we might understand the nature >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> language without the preconceptions of the stuff we use out of habit. >>>>>>>> Imagine coming back here after years with a 4 billion year old >>>>>>>> civilisation >>>>>>>> where honesty is the best policy because there is a technological >>>>>>>> telepathy >>>>>>>> and trying to talk to others about it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/Xe7uPXlHeIs/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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