The Sue Linda you are welcoming , I don't see her anywhere , where is Sue Linda?
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:09 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > .I fell out with Socrates eons ago.. > Gabby's immaturity i have had to put up with worse.. > Past is past.. > Been known by many names. Most of which is past and I like it that way it > can stay buried .. what I like about where I am is I am under the radar. > As for Gabby, and crew. They are their own heroes nothing will ever > change that. > > > القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on > > Allan - on this form you would have fallen out with Socrates. No harm in > falling out with someone eating at a free table provided by slaves, of > course. I worked in factories where bad language was so inane even the odd > mother would have been enlightening. The people were still capable of > great dignity and kindness. We are too old for high horses - a cleaner may > have polished the surface and we are no longer good at surviving falls to > the hard floor beneath. We are hardly je suis charlie if we can't defend > Gabby's right to tease us with our lives. Even if, returning bloodied and > bruised, she will only tell us she can stand up for herself, and run off > with a younger man or woman. Accusing someone who can flick us off in > several languages as lacking vocabulary ain't it either. > > Gabby can be assured she could have my last cucumber sandwich, and will > guess already I don't like them. If she was serious, the tanks would > already be parked on your lawn. If you haven't got a lawn you know where > to look. The 'girl' has wit enough to know I use the particular word in > tease and not from some chronic anti-feminist old-fart patronisation - > though it might be provocation to surface attitudes. What is unbecoming - > a sophisticated woman swearing or old men telling her not to swear as > though a child subject to reprimand? > > Gabby does throw up some deep questioning on the root metaphors that > restrict our argument to the banal and wheel-reinvention. We don't get a > lot of the references - as say we might not get what I have said about > 'Elevatorgate' between Dawkins and Watson or references to ludicrous > porn-feminism. In je suis charlie, it is convenient from western root > metaphors to see the grim killers as Islamist nutters rather than products > of western imperialism and to raise free expression as the issue when we > have little. Writ large, did Germans "start" two world wars? Most are not > even capable of taking such as a question for investigation and are hostile > to anyone who might seek a different truth than that indoctrinated. > > I'd put it this way - offer Gabby an olive branch and she might take it > off you and clout you round the head for presuming she was hostile in the > first place. This would not be real violence, just an invitation to > discuss 'origin' and perhaps what a world less prone to immediate hostility > might be. > > On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 17:12:42 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Name calling and foul language is very becoming on you gabby. >> If you don't like the vacuum why noy try anf fill it with intelligent. >> original preferred. Rather than snarling venomous hatred. >> >> I have had the privilege of examining native American friends. The >> information cave drawing convey is truely amazing if you know how to read >> them.. you should not mock another person's culture.. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gabbydott <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 3:14 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on >> >> Thank you very much for speaking out once more, Andrew. As for the >> painting in negative light, I really think we need an update into the more >> dimensional world. I have seen so many >> if-only-those-m****f****-had-their-shadows-integrated >> paintings these days that I ask myself when we will be sold the cave >> equation as the latest 3D shit? Do no harm was better than all the >> succeeding do not&avoid others otherings - in the felt absence of external >> power the cavewall paintings become more and more alive to fill the vacuum. >> Wrong way Allan. >> >> Am Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2015 schrieb andrew vecsey : >> >>> Allan. I once apologized for your hypocrisy and rudeness to a new member >>> and you got very angry at me for speaking on your behalf. And now you did >>> the same thing to Gabby. By painting Gabby in a negative light to a new >>> member is not very nice. What happened to your old signature that stated >>> "Do not hurt others"?? Hypocrisy and ignorance go very well together. >>> >>> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 7:54:25 AM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> To Sue Linda i hope you are reading and i was looking forward to >>>> reading your view point. >>>> I apologise for Gabbies out burst, forgetting to greet you. She has a >>>> dislike for my sig line and makes it well known.. so you understand. She >>>> told ud she was God's mom. The pains of child birth could be heard through >>>> out the universe with the intense pain turned Gabby into a natural grouch >>>> which has lasted for billion of years.. >>>> Hope you join us sincerely . There is always a internet pause that is >>>> no fault of ours bùt rather one of the US home land security desìre to >>>> coppy all the internet gabber.. >>>> >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 1:08 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on >>>> >>>> Sue Linda may be gone. I did sign her up within a few hours of >>>> application and click her off moderation. Seems the inability to instant >>>> post puts most off. Hence gassing with Al. Seems the way of things. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:28:45 UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Whose reality are you referring to, Allan? How does it contribute to >>>>> welcoming Sue Linda? You have your granted advertising space for your >>>>> sub-messages and you have started a Paris thread, but since there is >>>>> no feedback traffic you hijack the next best thread for your purpose. And >>>>> I >>>>> tell you those in power know exactly about that reality. >>>>> >>>>> Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2015 22:02:48 UTC+1 schrieb Allan Heretic: >>>>>> >>>>>> The fight for freedom is not new. Niether is the war on terrorism .. >>>>>> those want to freedom will be free. Just how it will happen but it will. >>>>>> >>>>>> Times are changing. And what think no longer matters. Those in power >>>>>> well what do they know about reality. .. >>>>>> >>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 9:40 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years >>>>>> on >>>>>> >>>>>> My view is we don't have freedom of expression and the media is in >>>>>> the way. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 7:26:14 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After thought i was watching the news .. the other demonstration >>>>>>> are what the news can deal with and promote. As the can stand off with >>>>>>> noses high in the air .. Paris demonstrations are againt terrorism. It >>>>>>> was a memorial march to remember those killed and for the freedom of >>>>>>> speech. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 1:18 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you calling me a Frenchman Allan? The last Scottish royals were >>>>>>> all French (Robert le Bruce to the Stewarts) and took over England too, >>>>>>> before letting the Dutch and Germans take over. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 9:36:39 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well that is what happens to a humble silversmith (not).. that is >>>>>>>> what happens when you are not Scottish royalty. . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Side entrances arevgreat for entering unnoticed. .an excellent >>>>>>>> example is the fine gentleman that went in and visited the english >>>>>>>> gueen.. >>>>>>>> proof positive of... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Welcome Sue. Looking forward to hear what you have to say. >>>>>>>> (",) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:11 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion >>>>>>>> years on >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The drawbridge is there - at the front. You've been using the >>>>>>>> tradesmans' entrance at the side. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 3:04:53 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Welcome Sue to minds eye.. i believe things have guiet because of >>>>>>>>> the happenings in Paris. Neil is protected by a large moat without a >>>>>>>>> drawbridge. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Actually yesterday's response is a fantastic notice to terrorist. >>>>>>>>> Not in my name -- I am Charlie. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 3:49 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Sue Linda. Feel free to join in. We are a bit quiet at the >>>>>>>>> moment, though sometimes manage to get ourselves going. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So what would the implications of time be 4 billion years on? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Would some archaeological historian be writing the relatively >>>>>>>>> short history of an ape species with a deformed 24th chromosome pair, >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> evidence from the remains of a planet 'crisped' by its red giant star? >>>>>>>>> 2. Could we 'travel' to the future if a species with 4 billion >>>>>>>>> years more civilisation (now) happened along to colonise Mars and had >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> good neighbour intervention policy concerning 'primitives libidinising >>>>>>>>> themselves to over-population and planet burning'? >>>>>>>>> 3. Would even what we now think of as particles have developed 4 >>>>>>>>> billion years on in the evolving universe? >>>>>>>>> 4. How would anyone returning to the present explain her years >>>>>>>>> with the advanced civilisation to we 'plebs'? >>>>>>>>> 5. What of techniques of future profiling we have now and their >>>>>>>>> role in imagining and bringing change - a classic is called 'science >>>>>>>>> fiction prototyping' - imagine the social structure of the future to >>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>> out which products we should be working on now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm particularly interested on how science fiction makes the >>>>>>>>> future full of our present and traditions - an example to me of >>>>>>>>> non-imagination writ large and entertainment as diversion from >>>>>>>>> creative >>>>>>>>> practical solutions. Sci-fi mags are full of guidelines not to write >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> dross, but publish nothing else - chronic stuff like looking down at >>>>>>>>> pot-holes with steel-toothed rats lurking at the bottom - standard >>>>>>>>> fare on >>>>>>>>> the walk home after a few beers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some might remember Wittgenstein used to imagine up tribes and how >>>>>>>>> they would have to invent language - so we might understand the >>>>>>>>> nature of >>>>>>>>> language without the preconceptions of the stuff we use out of habit. >>>>>>>>> Imagine coming back here after years with a 4 billion year old >>>>>>>>> civilisation >>>>>>>>> where honesty is the best policy because there is a technological >>>>>>>>> telepathy >>>>>>>>> and trying to talk to others about it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>> topic/minds-eye/Xe7uPXlHeIs/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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