Both forms are correct if I say them and both wrong if JFK had meant them non-politically. Ich bin Berliner translates I am (from/somehow connected to) Berlin, and Ich bin ein Berliner translates I am a Berliner.
Am Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2015 18:44:00 UTC+1 schrieb archytas: > > I'm with the first line Allan. I'd guess the correct German would be Ich > bin Berliner rather than what JFK said. I wouldn't use my time machine to > go back and stop the guy to ensure we didn't have to 'put up with' Gabby. > Of course, if Gladstone had had his way, your Confederate sabre would have > ended up on the winning side until the Brits, Russians and French took over > and divided up the US. > > On Thursday, 15 January 2015 08:51:16 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Yes you are correct almost. The reason there is the on going problems is >> conservitive cowards that are afraid to stand up for anything just so the >> don't disturb their pitiful realities. >> June 26 1963 the news headlines read. "Ich bin ein Berliner" the >> terrorism of soviet communism was stood up to. >> Today i am called names cursed at .. if the attitude displayed by gabby >> was taken in 1963.. where would Gabby be.. would we even know her? >> What am I listening to. >> Incedently ww2 was cemented into action in 1919 with the treaty people >> were forced to sign that ended ww1.. >> >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> To: [email protected] <javascript:> >> Sent: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 4:29 AM >> Subject: Mind's Eye So what's wrong with je suis charlie? >> >> Killing cartoonists clearly can't be allowed. There is no absolute >> authority for jihad, crusades or lacking a self-depreciating sense of >> humour prepared to rip loved ones from the lives of relatives and friends. >> The most common 'cause' of killing and war in primitive societies is >> revenge, generally pretty dumb. >> >> On the day Charlie Hebdo was struck, Boko Haram was doing much worse in >> Nigeria and 2000 died. Yemen was pasted again. 25 million or so have died >> in wars after WW2 and any number of people have had peaceful lives >> destroyed by various forms of imperialism. We understand revenge films >> where the child not slaughtered by Barbarians grows to destroy them. There >> are at least questions we should be asking on whether fundamentalist Islam >> is radicalising terrorists, or the various imperialisms and the conditions >> these create in countries kept poor and run by installed despots. >> >> Institutional religion is no use to me and I detest the hostility of >> those believers who would have me respect belief in superstition,clearly >> false history, varieties of justified sexism, racism, apartheid and selfish >> chosen-peopleism. This extends far beyond religion and to false ideas that >> the Greek Enlightenment was the zenith of civilisation. This was a sexist, >> racist, slave economy. Western democratic free trade liberalism is such a >> lie as to be merely another control fraud, not the end of history. >> >> There is little clarity. We stand as Charlie for free speech, yet do >> nothing against indecent Saudi floggings and beheadings. We have never >> produced democratic foreign policy, population control or sustained peace. >> Now we are arresting people protesting publicly against Charlie, somewhat >> contradictory to say the least. All that seems clear is that we are all >> Charleys, without much of a system to openly discuss what is wrong, leaving >> tyranny anywhere a threat to freedom everywhere. >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
