Je suis un Charlie would marke the difference. Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2015 17:00:53 UTC+1 schrieb archytas: > > We wouldn't make that distinction in English. I am Warringtonian or a > Warringtonian could be held to have different meanings - the first perhaps > a person reflecting Warrington, the latter just some poor sod unfortunate > enough to be born or live in the dump. Most of it makes that rabbit hutch > you once put me in a desirable residence. One couldn't distinguish the > meaning on grammar - it would all be in tone. Je suis charlie is beginning > to feel as 'constructed' as the JFK myth to me. > > On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 9:54:02 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >> >> Both forms are correct if I say them and both wrong if JFK had meant them >> non-politically. Ich bin Berliner translates I am (from/somehow connected >> to) Berlin, and Ich bin ein Berliner translates I am a Berliner. >> >> Am Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2015 18:44:00 UTC+1 schrieb archytas: >>> >>> I'm with the first line Allan. I'd guess the correct German would be >>> Ich bin Berliner rather than what JFK said. I wouldn't use my time machine >>> to go back and stop the guy to ensure we didn't have to 'put up with' >>> Gabby. Of course, if Gladstone had had his way, your Confederate sabre >>> would have ended up on the winning side until the Brits, Russians and >>> French took over and divided up the US. >>> >>> On Thursday, 15 January 2015 08:51:16 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes you are correct almost. The reason there is the on going problems >>>> is conservitive cowards that are afraid to stand up for anything just so >>>> the don't disturb their pitiful realities. >>>> June 26 1963 the news headlines read. "Ich bin ein Berliner" the >>>> terrorism of soviet communism was stood up to. >>>> Today i am called names cursed at .. if the attitude displayed by gabby >>>> was taken in 1963.. where would Gabby be.. would we even know her? >>>> What am I listening to. >>>> Incedently ww2 was cemented into action in 1919 with the treaty people >>>> were forced to sign that ended ww1.. >>>> >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 4:29 AM >>>> Subject: Mind's Eye So what's wrong with je suis charlie? >>>> >>>> Killing cartoonists clearly can't be allowed. There is no absolute >>>> authority for jihad, crusades or lacking a self-depreciating sense of >>>> humour prepared to rip loved ones from the lives of relatives and friends. >>>> The most common 'cause' of killing and war in primitive societies is >>>> revenge, generally pretty dumb. >>>> >>>> On the day Charlie Hebdo was struck, Boko Haram was doing much worse in >>>> Nigeria and 2000 died. Yemen was pasted again. 25 million or so have >>>> died >>>> in wars after WW2 and any number of people have had peaceful lives >>>> destroyed by various forms of imperialism. We understand revenge films >>>> where the child not slaughtered by Barbarians grows to destroy them. >>>> There >>>> are at least questions we should be asking on whether fundamentalist Islam >>>> is radicalising terrorists, or the various imperialisms and the conditions >>>> these create in countries kept poor and run by installed despots. >>>> >>>> Institutional religion is no use to me and I detest the hostility of >>>> those believers who would have me respect belief in superstition,clearly >>>> false history, varieties of justified sexism, racism, apartheid and >>>> selfish >>>> chosen-peopleism. This extends far beyond religion and to false ideas >>>> that >>>> the Greek Enlightenment was the zenith of civilisation. This was a sexist, >>>> racist, slave economy. Western democratic free trade liberalism is such a >>>> lie as to be merely another control fraud, not the end of history. >>>> >>>> There is little clarity. We stand as Charlie for free speech, yet do >>>> nothing against indecent Saudi floggings and beheadings. We have never >>>> produced democratic foreign policy, population control or sustained peace. >>>> Now we are arresting people protesting publicly against Charlie, somewhat >>>> contradictory to say the least. All that seems clear is that we are all >>>> Charleys, without much of a system to openly discuss what is wrong, >>>> leaving >>>> tyranny anywhere a threat to freedom everywhere. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>
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