Consciousness in others is inferred and not known or proved so it might be
that even atoms of elements have consciousness. I cannot even prove that
you have consciousness it is merely inferred that you have it.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Why do we have to be satisfied with your explanation when we haven't even
> determined what that means?
>
> You began a thread called consciousness, and then won't even take the
> first steps to try to establish a common ground on the idea?
>
> Let's start with the simple question: do you believe plants have
> consciousness?
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:18 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't think you will get an answer to this in the near future and maybe
>> not in your lifetime , and so we have to be satisfied with my explanation
>> -- it is an attribute of life , a real one , and not jumbled up.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Chris Jenkins <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Moogle-de-poogledy is an attribute of life and needs no further
>>> description.
>>>
>>> Do you see why that's not an effective line of conversation?
>>>
>>> What is conciousness? Do plants have it? Does it require sentience?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:10 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Consciousness is an attribute of life and needs no further description.
>>>> Without consciousness there would have been no life , and so it is life
>>>> itself.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Chris Jenkins <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just so we're all on the same page, can you go ahead and define
>>>>> exactly what a consciousness is?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:05 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Suppose there had been no consciousness and the entire world had been
>>>>>> there but all unconscious , what would be the Truth? Just death , nothing
>>>>>> else. Consciousness is what makes life , a proof that there is something
>>>>>> which exists , Existence itself and not death. Look at the stars , the
>>>>>> solar system , if it had self-direction where would we be? It all obeys
>>>>>> laws and that is the reason for order in the universe and not chaos. What
>>>>>> would humanity have been if we were not bound by our nature , no laws of
>>>>>> biology , psychology , etc. , no predictability , no comfort that we 
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> return to our homes at night ,no assurance that we would return home from
>>>>>> work . Unpredictability is still there but it is minor , mostly there is
>>>>>> satisfaction and assurance of well-being.
>>>>>>
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