Or a request for definition, apparently. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:58 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> We may have no consciousness and an evil genie might be making us think we > have. I find inferred consciousness is easily removed by a heavy blow with > a pick-axe handle. > > > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 3:10:05 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >> >> Consciousness in others is inferred and not known or proved so it might >> be that even atoms of elements have consciousness. I cannot even prove that >> you have consciousness it is merely inferred that you have it. >> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Chris Jenkins < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Why do we have to be satisfied with your explanation when we haven't >>> even determined what that means? >>> >>> You began a thread called consciousness, and then won't even take the >>> first steps to try to establish a common ground on the idea? >>> >>> Let's start with the simple question: do you believe plants have >>> consciousness? >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:18 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't think you will get an answer to this in the near future and >>>> maybe not in your lifetime , and so we have to be satisfied with my >>>> explanation -- it is an attribute of life , a real one , and not jumbled >>>> up. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Chris Jenkins < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Moogle-de-poogledy is an attribute of life and needs no further >>>>> description. >>>>> >>>>> Do you see why that's not an effective line of conversation? >>>>> >>>>> What is conciousness? Do plants have it? Does it require sentience? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:10 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Consciousness is an attribute of life and needs no further >>>>>> description. Without consciousness there would have been no life , and so >>>>>> it is life itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Chris Jenkins < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just so we're all on the same page, can you go ahead and define >>>>>>> exactly what a consciousness is? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:05 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Suppose there had been no consciousness and the entire world had >>>>>>>> been there but all unconscious , what would be the Truth? Just death , >>>>>>>> nothing else. Consciousness is what makes life , a proof that there is >>>>>>>> something which exists , Existence itself and not death. Look at the >>>>>>>> stars >>>>>>>> , the solar system , if it had self-direction where would we be? It all >>>>>>>> obeys laws and that is the reason for order in the universe and not >>>>>>>> chaos. >>>>>>>> What would humanity have been if we were not bound by our nature , no >>>>>>>> laws >>>>>>>> of biology , psychology , etc. , no predictability , no comfort that we >>>>>>>> would return to our homes at night ,no assurance that we would return >>>>>>>> home >>>>>>>> from work . 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