We may have no consciousness and an evil genie might be making us think we have. I find inferred consciousness is easily removed by a heavy blow with a pick-axe handle.
On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 3:10:05 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote: > > Consciousness in others is inferred and not known or proved so it might be > that even atoms of elements have consciousness. I cannot even prove that > you have consciousness it is merely inferred that you have it. > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Chris Jenkins <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Why do we have to be satisfied with your explanation when we haven't even >> determined what that means? >> >> You began a thread called consciousness, and then won't even take the >> first steps to try to establish a common ground on the idea? >> >> Let's start with the simple question: do you believe plants have >> consciousness? >> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:18 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I don't think you will get an answer to this in the near future and >>> maybe not in your lifetime , and so we have to be satisfied with my >>> explanation -- it is an attribute of life , a real one , and not jumbled up. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Chris Jenkins < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Moogle-de-poogledy is an attribute of life and needs no further >>>> description. >>>> >>>> Do you see why that's not an effective line of conversation? >>>> >>>> What is conciousness? Do plants have it? Does it require sentience? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:10 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Consciousness is an attribute of life and needs no further >>>>> description. Without consciousness there would have been no life , and so >>>>> it is life itself. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Chris Jenkins < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Just so we're all on the same page, can you go ahead and define >>>>>> exactly what a consciousness is? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:05 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Suppose there had been no consciousness and the entire world had >>>>>>> been there but all unconscious , what would be the Truth? Just death , >>>>>>> nothing else. Consciousness is what makes life , a proof that there is >>>>>>> something which exists , Existence itself and not death. Look at the >>>>>>> stars >>>>>>> , the solar system , if it had self-direction where would we be? It all >>>>>>> obeys laws and that is the reason for order in the universe and not >>>>>>> chaos. >>>>>>> What would humanity have been if we were not bound by our nature , no >>>>>>> laws >>>>>>> of biology , psychology , etc. , no predictability , no comfort that we >>>>>>> would return to our homes at night ,no assurance that we would return >>>>>>> home >>>>>>> from work . Unpredictability is still there but it is minor , mostly >>>>>>> there >>>>>>> is satisfaction and assurance of well-being. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
