I'd hung back - I have to write far more than I want to really. On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 12:30:14 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > In ways you are very right. I see the problems galore. Corks floating > mindlessly on oceans of deciet lies and corruption guided by moralless > guides.. the blind leading the blind. > Neil you are complaining that " No one has talked of reciprocity, > humbleness and other stuff I believe in." Why didn't you talk about them in > your moral guidelines? I will add them to your compas view ..a long time > ago I learned a very special prayer goes > God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change. To change > the things that I can. The wisdom to know the difference and the ability to > endure the frustration. > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Moral compass > > It's sexist rot Allan. We should regard the muck as pre-history and get > on with working out where we are with modern knowledge and contributions > from all. Another milestone on the roadmap for me is being prepared to > change one's mind. This makes people who start to rationalise away Moses > as a war criminal and other blatant rubbish way problematic for 'do no > harm' - they are already at it. Somewhere along the line you have to stand > up against Nazis, fascism, Soviet Paradise, the British Empire, Genghis > Khan and probably the US Neo-Cons now. To the selfish, cowardly > religionist none of this matters. They hide behind others, become > conscientious objectors (who let others who object for sensible reasons > hang) do deals with the likes of Hitler (that Pope in WW2) and get rolled > out to proclaim a just war. Religion used to be a finer part of rebellion > than it is in its soggy condition today > > Part of my creed would be to recover what was once worthwhile, lost under > men in skirts, silly hats, faux holiness, miracles, deep introspective > evidence and the desire to rip-off a gullible audience - I am, in fact, > deeply Puritan, Digger, Chartist and stuck with an off button for social > approved epistemic authority based on stuff made sacred or given to us by > invisible beings. > > No one has talked of reciprocity, humbleness and other stuff I believe in. > I know of Molly's light as an aspiration felt in temporary fellowship, but > such 'faith' soon disappears once Genghis is on the scene. We should have > a law that says 'religion ain't worth fighting over'. All this stuff is > more situation-contextual and subject to marginal conditions than we are > admitting. Turn the other cheek is not a good infantry tactic, though both > sides turning on the bosses is. Our leaders these days are 'hindmosts'. > > On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 7:56:05 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Ah Tony de Cork has spoken. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "'facilitator' via \"Minds Eye\"" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 7:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Moral compass >> >> If your footsteps are righteous you don't need a moral compass. >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >
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