In ways you are very right. I see the problems galore. Corks floating mindlessly on oceans of deciet lies and corruption guided by moralless guides.. the blind leading the blind. Neil you are complaining that " No one has talked of reciprocity, humbleness and other stuff I believe in." Why didn't you talk about them in your moral guidelines? I will add them to your compas view ..a long time ago I learned a very special prayer goes God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change. To change the things that I can. The wisdom to know the difference and the ability to endure the frustration. تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
-----Original Message----- From: archytas <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Moral compass It's sexist rot Allan. We should regard the muck as pre-history and get on with working out where we are with modern knowledge and contributions from all. Another milestone on the roadmap for me is being prepared to change one's mind. This makes people who start to rationalise away Moses as a war criminal and other blatant rubbish way problematic for 'do no harm' - they are already at it. Somewhere along the line you have to stand up against Nazis, fascism, Soviet Paradise, the British Empire, Genghis Khan and probably the US Neo-Cons now. To the selfish, cowardly religionist none of this matters. They hide behind others, become conscientious objectors (who let others who object for sensible reasons hang) do deals with the likes of Hitler (that Pope in WW2) and get rolled out to proclaim a just war. Religion used to be a finer part of rebellion than it is in its soggy condition today Part of my creed would be to recover what was once worthwhile, lost under men in skirts, silly hats, faux holiness, miracles, deep introspective evidence and the desire to rip-off a gullible audience - I am, in fact, deeply Puritan, Digger, Chartist and stuck with an off button for social approved epistemic authority based on stuff made sacred or given to us by invisible beings. No one has talked of reciprocity, humbleness and other stuff I believe in. I know of Molly's light as an aspiration felt in temporary fellowship, but such 'faith' soon disappears once Genghis is on the scene. We should have a law that says 'religion ain't worth fighting over'. All this stuff is more situation-contextual and subject to marginal conditions than we are admitting. Turn the other cheek is not a good infantry tactic, though both sides turning on the bosses is. Our leaders these days are 'hindmosts'. On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 7:56:05 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Ah Tony de Cork has spoken. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: "'facilitator' via \"Minds Eye\"" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 7:40 AM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Moral compass > > If your footsteps are righteous you don't need a moral compass. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
