Some where i have an small oak keg of aged brandy that has been laying around 
since I stopped drinking over 36 years ago..


تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

-----Original Message-----
From: archytas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Moral compass

Just pass that brandy along Allan and see what happens then!

On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 3:00:18 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> It really is amazing what evolves via ME input.. 
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: archytas <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Moral compass
>
> They rather liked me for it RP - though not the ones destined to be monks 
> copying from text books.
>
> On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 2:35:45 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>
>> Teachers have to be strict and when a student has to work harder , he 
>> lays the blame at his door. That doesn't make you unpleasant , Neil.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:40 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Some students said I was rather dictatorial in insisting they learned 
>>> for themselves RP.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 12:45:29 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A person who is not arrogant , respects himself and others is by nature 
>>>> pleasant and reciprocates. If you try to reduce your arrogance and change 
>>>> for the better then you have to be alert to remind yourself whenever you 
>>>> have such thoughts and feelings , you alone can change yourself and not 
>>>> others. I can change myself and not you and if I keep my moral compass in 
>>>> mind I know that I will change and as a matter of fact I already have 
>>>> changed in the course of a few days. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In ways you are very right. I see the problems galore. Corks floating 
>>>>> mindlessly on oceans of deciet  lies and corruption guided by moralless 
>>>>> guides.. the blind leading the blind.
>>>>> Neil you are complaining that " No one has talked of reciprocity, 
>>>>> humbleness and other stuff I believe in." Why didn't you talk about them 
>>>>> in 
>>>>> your moral guidelines? I will add them to your compas view ..a long time 
>>>>> ago I learned a very special prayer  goes
>>>>> God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change. To 
>>>>> change the things that I can. The wisdom to know the difference and the 
>>>>> ability to endure the frustration. 
>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 12:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Moral compass
>>>>>
>>>>> It's sexist rot Allan.  We should regard the muck as pre-history and 
>>>>> get on with working out where we are with modern knowledge and 
>>>>> contributions from all.    Another milestone on the roadmap for me is 
>>>>> being 
>>>>> prepared to change one's mind.  This makes people who start to 
>>>>> rationalise 
>>>>> away Moses as a war criminal and other blatant rubbish way problematic 
>>>>> for 
>>>>> 'do no harm' - they are already at it.  Somewhere along the line you have 
>>>>> to stand up against Nazis, fascism, Soviet Paradise, the British Empire, 
>>>>> Genghis Khan and probably the US Neo-Cons now.  To the selfish, cowardly 
>>>>> religionist none of this matters.  They hide behind others, become 
>>>>> conscientious objectors (who let others who object for sensible reasons 
>>>>> hang) do deals with the likes of Hitler (that Pope in WW2) and get rolled 
>>>>> out to proclaim a just war.  Religion used to be a finer part of 
>>>>> rebellion 
>>>>> than it is in its soggy condition today
>>>>>
>>>>> Part of my creed would be to recover what was once worthwhile, lost 
>>>>> under men in skirts, silly hats, faux holiness, miracles, deep 
>>>>> introspective evidence and the desire to rip-off a gullible audience - I 
>>>>> am, in fact, deeply Puritan, Digger, Chartist and stuck with an off 
>>>>> button 
>>>>> for social approved epistemic authority based on stuff made sacred or 
>>>>> given 
>>>>> to us by invisible beings.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one has talked of reciprocity, humbleness and other stuff I believe 
>>>>> in.  I know of Molly's light as an aspiration felt in temporary 
>>>>> fellowship, 
>>>>> but such 'faith' soon disappears once Genghis is on the scene.  We should 
>>>>> have a law that says 'religion ain't worth fighting over'.  All this 
>>>>> stuff 
>>>>> is more situation-contextual and subject to marginal conditions than we 
>>>>> are 
>>>>> admitting.  Turn the other cheek is not a good infantry tactic, though 
>>>>> both 
>>>>> sides turning on the bosses is.  Our leaders these days are 'hindmosts'.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 7:56:05 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah Tony de Cork has spoken. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: "'facilitator' via \"Minds Eye\"" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 7:40 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Moral compass
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your footsteps are righteous you don't need a moral compass.
>>>>>>
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