There is indeed a killing tradition here Gabby.  I hover regularly over the 
Milgram electric moderation control button left in my care, always lacking 
the courage to send you to the eternal moderation of another.  This is a 
daily routine here at Planet of the Apes Central.  The idea of pulling the 
thorn from the lions foot is not about then sticking it where it really 
hurts.  I sometimes think your days with Uncle Screwtape gave you the wrong 
ideas.

The Zombie notion is dealt with rather well in Mein Kampf, the real bible 
of modern entertainment, politics and newsrooms.  The 'masses', a term one 
might take as meaning 'everyone except Gabby' forget everything, are 
confused by multi-faceted argument and need to be fed fairy tales and 
repeated slogans to keep them on the same correct page.  One sorts out a 
focus, vilified in caricature, for hatred - here roped together old men 
referred to as 'Zombies' - before making everyone in the way of the ego 
that must be, the enemy, including, as with the Wahabi Berber warriors in 
Saudi, those who have done the ego's initial killing.  Anyway, the story 
has long paled.  I can love you, poison and all.  And Allan owns the coffee 
machine,

Allan is probably wrong on the Whirling Dervishes.  I did see a performance 
once, with a Jewish woman who thought I was a gift from god.  Nice chaps, 
though I would have preferred to watch women.  We had a drink afterwards, 
once no authorities were watching.  Yemen uses 40% of its water growing the 
'herb of the prophet' (have we tapped this market Chris?).  Sufis do a lot 
of stuff in pursuit of religious moments of experience.  Francis Bacon and 
Ernst Mach were similar experimenters.  I often find what I feel people are 
doing to each other in company as so distressing I have to drink to stay 
with the experiment.  The Zombie stage seems to be reached early, before 
lips taste the amber nectar or pinot noir gifts from god.

The Zombie might be a good metaphor for management development.  Put under 
training and therapy, it recovers and gains new strength - to be an even 
better Zombie back in the workplace.  Of course, many mental patients 
recover in therapy, only to relapse once back amongst normal zombies.  I 
have forgotten the Lord's Prayer, National Anthem and school hymn.  They 
come back to me amongst zombies, a bit like the 12 times table, or at least 
I can hum along.

My own theory is that zombies are kept in most individuals under a thin 
skim of 'education', waiting to be broken out when needed by the 
Establishment as soldiers, voters, workers, prostitutes ... Tony's recent 
link to Wax Taylor shows a lot of what I mean.



On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 9:32:24 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>
> Zombies are those who have no understanding or intellect of their own , 
> but follow blindly the interpretation and direction of others and need not 
> be extremists but normal people. But those who have the discretionary power 
> and are able to make their own beliefs, whether normal or extremists, 
> cannot be called zombies. 
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 2:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Exteimist definitely  would fit into the zombie category of religious 
>> people. There also those that study hard memorizing religious documents and 
>> selected passage having no real compension following  the D&D without 
>> questioning  the value or truth. 
>> The other  problem of those that act to follow  ethics of humanity  
>> committing  rape and enslavement  of others..  The question  is do you want 
>> to become like them by responding in the same manner? 
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 8:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye ZOMBIES
>>
>> Allan , those of us irrespective of religion or clime , who follow 
>> someone or something without conscious effort to understand the dogma and 
>> act as if taken along by the current of extremism are Zombies. But those 
>> who apply their mind to understand things and then act with resolve and 
>> determination to do what they understand to be right are really free as can 
>> be. Such extremists who consider themselves to be free and yet act contrary 
>> to humanity are not zombies but butchers and need to be exterminated.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:31 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> When I first thought of a zombie topic,  it was a dead air filler. One 
>>> of the things I found out there is  an islamic  cult that actual strive to 
>>> reach a spiritual zombie state ..commonly known  as  the  whirling  
>>> dervish. 
>>> And I thought the idea of a spiritual zombie to be an original idea. 
>>> Goes to show just how little I know. My original  thought was that there 
>>> are what appear to be spiritual  zombies mindlessly  following religious 
>>> teachings without questioning  the dogma and doctrine. Not to say anything 
>>> about teachings. 
>>>
>>> Wonder if it will fair better this time? 
>>>
>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others 
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