There is 'nodding disease' - http://www.cdc.gov/globalhealth/noddingsyndrome/ - and ants are zombified by a fungal infection that makes them wander off as if drunk, to die at lunar noon. The Christian 'Shakers' started down the road from here. They were quite Sufi. The Shakers believed the second coming would be a woman, though outlawed sex and thus aren't around now Gabby is with us. Like the Sufi they were persecuted by other religions of peace and love.
I'm surprised Allan lost interest, as the Dervish stuff is part of Sama, which comes from Rumi, a splendidly heretic philosopher. Rumi was inspired by gold-beaters singing while they worked. "Through Love all that is bitter will be sweet, Through Love all that is copper will be gold, Through Love all dregs will become wine, through Love all pain will turn to medicine". Take this to heart my dear old chap. She means well. You know the value of every article of merchandise, but if you don't know the value of your own soul, it's all foolishness. What shall I say, O Muslims, I know not myself, I am neither a Christian, nor a Jew, nor a Zoroastrian, nor a Muslim. It may be that the satisfaction I need depends on my going away, so that when I've gone and come back, I'll find it at home. Do you have an alibi for the 13th century Allan - this guy could be you. Look, here you are musing on Gabby: "You left and I cried tears of blood. My sorrow grows. Its not just that You left. But when You left my eyes went with You. Now, how will I cry?" Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I’ll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about. The Allan I know wrote that. On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 1:21:47 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > When I first ran the zombie topic a long time ago. Some where I read the > induced state was a zombie like state of concousness induced by the > whirling. > I could have read it wrong or remember it wrong. > What I do remember a reference to zombie like state connected with the > whirling dervish. It is one of the islamic sects I do believe it refers > to the sufi, I never continued due to lack of interest. I was surprised > that sufi was an islamic sect. > Lost interest a long time ago. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 1:29 PM > Subject: Mind's Eye Re: ZOMBIES > > Think you've missed the point on this one completely, Allan. The Sufi are > the ones who practice the whirling meditation to achieve a particular state > of consciousness. Nothing to do with zombies, extremism or terrorism. > Jeesh. Sufism is the mystical tradition of Islam. Some of their teachings > are real jewels. > > On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 9:01:42 PM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> When I first thought of a zombie topic, it was a dead air filler. One of >> the things I found out there is an islamic cult that actual strive to >> reach a spiritual zombie state ..commonly known as the whirling >> dervish. >> And I thought the idea of a spiritual zombie to be an original idea. Goes >> to show just how little I know. My original thought was that there are >> what appear to be spiritual zombies mindlessly following religious >> teachings without questioning the dogma and doctrine. Not to say anything >> about teachings. >> >> Wonder if it will fair better this time? >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
