When I first ran the zombie topic a long time ago. Some where I read the 
induced state was a zombie like state of concousness induced by the whirling. 
I could have read it wrong or remember it wrong. 
What I do remember a reference to zombie  like state connected with the 
whirling dervish.   It is one of the islamic sects  I do believe it refers to 
the sufi,  I never continued due to lack  of interest.  I was surprised that 
sufi was an islamic sect. 
Lost interest  a long time ago. 

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: Molly <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 1:29 PM
Subject: Mind's Eye Re: ZOMBIES

Think you've missed the point on this one completely, Allan. The Sufi are 
the ones who practice the whirling meditation to achieve a particular state 
of consciousness. Nothing to do with zombies, extremism or terrorism. 
Jeesh. Sufism is the mystical tradition of Islam. Some of their teachings 
are real jewels.

On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 9:01:42 PM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> When I first thought of a zombie topic,  it was a dead air filler. One of 
> the things I found out there is  an islamic  cult that actual strive to 
> reach a spiritual zombie state ..commonly known  as  the  whirling  
> dervish. 
> And I thought the idea of a spiritual zombie to be an original idea. Goes 
> to show just how little I know. My original  thought was that there are 
> what appear to be spiritual  zombies mindlessly  following religious 
> teachings without questioning  the dogma and doctrine. Not to say anything 
> about teachings. 
>
> Wonder if it will fair better this time? 
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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