Here is something on deluded scientific objectification successfully being said NO to: http://www.bbs.uni-bremen.de/
Being white I could feel Gutmensch-like laughing about the typical white's stupid whitewashing of black's interests in the white man's industry, right? Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2015 schrieb archytas : > I'm not quite so absurdist as Chris in his story above on truth, though > I've had plenty of exasperations on it. Koro and kuru might be > interesting. The first is a delusory affliction, sometimes in mass > hysteria, that genital organs (the penis or female nipples) are > disappearing into the body, the second a real disease that emerges from > former cannibal practices (it has a long incubation period - the > cannibalism is supposed to have stopped in 1960). One of the 'cures' for > koro is to get someone else to hang onto the actually non-receding bit. So > you see Chris, there is some truth. If you think you have koro, no point > in calling me. Kuru is incurable, so the truth there is it ain't good to > eat people. > > Human susceptibility to delusion seems plain enough. Quite a few students > over the years have deluded themselves into thinking my story about koro > isn't true. Amazingly, on reference to Wikipedia, they believe it. This, > of course, is part of a longer strategy to get them to understand what > 'credibility' is - like the credibility of someone teaching from management > textbooks as though they are true. Managers, in these books, have > responsibility to create reality for others. If this is true, we can at > least ask why they choose to inflict such a lousy one. > > I guess most of us can spot that the guy chopping at his second head, > believing it is me, yet putting himself in hospital, is deluded. Gabby > might be tempted to applaud, but I'm pretty sure she would try to take the > axe away, if she had the chance. This sort of delusion seems easy to spot, > even though we don't have direct access to the deluded mind. Yet if we can > spot delusions such as this and the action of ophiocordyceps unilateralis, > the ant deluding fungus (known as the zombie fungus) - should be not think > on our susceptibility to delusions we are not spotting? The deluded ants > do not make a pretty picture in death - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiocordyceps_unilateralis > > Tony's sculptures (are we there yet on the next batch, I ask as progress > chaser on the production line?) have an illusory aspect - but any delusion > created does seem facilitatory. This great link he put up the other day > gets closer to the kind of delusion that bugs me - Que Sera - Wax Tailor > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEi9ZQrEjr8> - and I can easily imagine > doing something like this on economics as the que sera sera bit. You can > imagine a burned-out village in the Congo and dead bodies, with a talk-over > by some ghastly PR from Glencore on 'maximising profit opportunities', > Greek kids going hungry as Christine Lagarde does standard IMF > austerity-speak 5 years after the 'cure' has failed. Groups of teenagers > with their neat mobile phones in quasi-orgasmic rituals around them, cut > with some poor sod trying to dig his child out of a landslide in the tin > resource chain. Various politicians with jawbs-groaf promises against a > burning world. The delusion is presumably that we can keep on as we are - > but how it has come about and is spreading look intractable. Musak might > be a cut up version of Monty Python's 'Bright Side of Life'. > > Delusions deny evidence (in the Nico Bento case there is a fascinating > example of a supposedly 'sane' British court not believing their eyes and > instead an 'expert' telling them what they were seeing in CCTV footage was > illusory - though much more scary is the real experts were excluded), but > this is actually fairly standard human reasoning. We fit evidence in a > world-view. CSI is a great example - there are more clues in one episode > than I had in a career. > > The insanesteam economists have finally admitted they don't do science, > but still claim they act like objective scientists - frankly a total > delusion. Yet they still hold sway. Of course, I still know how to > pretend to be a Christian. > > And there are big questions on whether one's own objectivity is merely > another delusion. Evidence seems to be the answer, yet evidence systems > turn out to be rhetorical, often with conflicting root metaphors and hidden > drives. Remember, most people fail school - so what faith should we have > in the general capacity for argument? It's tough - but what is our own > delusion as a discussion group? > > On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 8:24:27 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Ah delusion, norm & money.. Oddly say a science program today. >> Money is a commonly agreed upon delusion with agreed upon rules. Alter >> the rules the system crashes.. :-P >> Left me wondering at what is going happen because of the continued >> manipulation of the rules of money .. Greed is a strange delusion. >> It was a fasinating. >> Then moved on to different realities.. :-D >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >> To: [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> Sent: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 8:35 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Delusions >> >> Brilliant Chris. 'Truth is an arete', I once read. I looked up 'arete' >> in a French dictionary (the first e had a circumflex accent) finding the >> useful word 'fish-hook'. I tried Greek and realised it meant 'value'. >> Having read 100,000 words to discover this, the idea academics knew >> anything about this stuff disappeared. >> >> There is no crown. Gabby stole the jewels in some campaign to raise >> Allan to common dust, apparently. >> >> On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 6:48:45 PM UTC, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>> >>> It's times like this I'm quite glad I shook off the ModGod mantle. Heavy >>> is the head that wears the crown. >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 7:30 AM, Gabby <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh come on, Allan! I am still waiting for your excuse back in the >>>> religion thread! Don't avoid your responsibility there! 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