I can also see the women's perspective. As a prostitute you get payed for
delivering a presentational self and not a representation of or for self.

Am Montag, 9. Februar 2015 schrieb archytas :

> People generally don't talk about what is happening to them like that
> Tony.  The academic language get so high falutin as to be part of the
> deception itself as a weird abstraction.  There are some obvious
> experiments we do, yet people go away imagining they saw through the
> illusion even though we make it plain they didn't.  Goffman was quite good
> in 'presentation of self' but the real trick would be getting people to
> talk about their own experience.  My excuse for seeing newsroom women as
> 'sex objects' is because they never deliver any news.  Some would see this
> as an old man's delusion, but I think an entirely different illusion is
> created.
>
> I agree all your points and wonder how long the list would be.
>
> On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 2:01:36 AM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>
>> Sorry to get back on topic but this interests me.
>>
>> "How are delusions maintained, as in creationism, democracy, free trade,
>> markets, the wars on drugs, terrorism and amongst cops, social workers and
>> …."
>>
>> Best way to maintain a delusion:
>>
>> 1)  Numerically.  Easier to maintain a delusion when it is held by a
>> majority.
>> 2)  Chronoligically.   It has been this way for….  Why would it be
>> different now?
>> 3)  Embellishment.   Add a bit of gravitas by associating the delusion
>> with prominent figures, scientists, heads of religious orders etc.
>> 4)  Hide its toxic nature.  Keep the poison palatable by mixing with
>> enough truth in order to change its color or palatability.
>> 5)  Multiplicity. Add a delusion to the delusion so the first delusion
>> becomes less deniable.
>> 6)  Serial encryption.   Pack the delusion with a series of undeniable
>> facts.
>> 7)  Geographic lamination.   Move the context of the delusion so that it
>> becomes difficult to challenge.  Example:  "Finish your vegetables there
>> are children starving in China"
>> 8)  Terminology disassociation.  When the government wants to hide it's
>> killing of innocent civilians (example: Waco,TX) the name of the living
>> quarters changes from school to "compound".
>>
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