"¿book? The Gita and Vedas are not books? They have been around a lot longer than the tora has been. Hate to inform you Gabby but the history you have been reading is a great deal of fantasy. Modern archeology is not being able to verify the stories told. To the point I am wondering what really when on with the Jews in Egypt? It was not building pyramids because it turns out they were built by labor unions with health care."
Chris pointed out you were missing the point Allan and you refused at this first fence. The false history of various Semite peoples are usually referred to as religions of the book. Yet there are other religions with books. Some kindly Mormon chaps once left one at our house with a can of foul corn-based coffee. Hindu material can now be bought in books. The tradition here is to insult Chris by pondering on him stressing he is not gay so often, not to no comment him. What were you thinking, Allan? "Archeology" (I had no idea I had a follower) or even archaeology and real history make a much stronger case that ancient text in general is unreliable than what you 'hated' to point out to Gabby. I thought it rather over-polite, rather than hatred. I think her apology demanding is rather Inquisitional and thuggish, but you have your pellet gun handy. Doubts on the Jewish slavery in Egypt can be found here: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/the-jewish-thinker/were-jews-ever-really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.420844 There are records of Jews being freed by Cyrus the Great later in history - but many such exiles were rather like Idi Amin's treatment of Asians or the Turkish treatment of the Armenians and the German managerial following of Numbers 31. Delusory 'same page' exclude the real evidence gewarting is common in religion and economics. It takes a long time to write the real critique and quite considerable knowledge. Should Allan thus apologise for his brief growl and go on to write a far more devastating critique on what is wrong with religion? Gabby, in my delusions she promises to allow me to handle myself, has demonstrated both a delusory aspect of religion and that of its bully-boy demands on others in over-reaction to the nay-sayer. Quite splendid irony, if intentionally written so. The word hate is there Gabbs, yet to turn it into an insult is quite hard. I guess, if Allan felt he had to 'hate to tell you', he may have implied you are thick and soft-skinned (I tend to the opposite), though 'soft' can also mean daft in English and I had no such intention. Surely everyone with an active brain knows religious books and scripts are not our history at all. And 'thiede bears' know how to bite back, if lacking a Christian sense of kindness in the unlikely event you have no sense of humour. On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 3:50:07 PM UTC, archytas wrote: > > "Here in Europe we usually speak of the three book religions, meaning > Jews, Christians, Muslims. I guess we all more or less know that the > religion we were born into did not come into effect with the book being > read to us but with a life style that can be explained by our long history > described in the books. Of course there was meaningful life before and > after the fixation of certain narratives in the books, but controlling the > other or excercising power over the other is easier when you can define > what the same page is you want others to be on. What about religion is you > don't like?" > > Hmm. Fairly delusional I would have thought. Would any military > strategist want to be drawn onto the same page to have power exercised over > her? Or any sensible person to the lifestyle of the minority described in > them, given biology, physics, chemistry, real history and the lifestyle of > the vast majority of people who have lived is missing? Let alone want to > be taught to learn the genocides and sexism so adoringly described are not > to be taken literally? > > Allan's response was a bit tame really. > > On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 3:24:15 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >> >> Never got pen to paper Allan. I'd have needed high frequency trading kit. >> >> On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 2:44:32 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>> >>> Allan, I suggest we look at each thread seperately to get some sanity >>> into this. >>> >>> So please go back to the religion thread to your posting that I still >>> demand an apology for. The posting where you introduced the HATE to the >>> religion thread. See how you jumped into a beginning conversation between >>> ME and POL's original posting. Instead of adding something to the >>> conversation that you find is missing, you impose your hate view upon me. >>> That's how I see it and demand an apology. >>> >>> Your sig lines do contain a message that cannot be addressed the way >>> they deserve it. Also they do not align with the human rights laws. Murder, >>> rape and slavery are NO NO NO! >>> >>> I'm not sure you can handle a fourth paragraph, I'll try nevertheless: >>> your soul view does not correspond with my soul view. Embrace the paradox >>> that we both embrace the soul view. >>> >>> Am Sonntag, 8. Februar 2015 schrieb : >>> >>>> Gabby. You need to be honest with yourself .. This mess started when I >>>> loaded my Sig line and your intense did like and insulting behavior ... At >>>> that point when you did not get me to withdraw it.. Any point you can >>>> attack me on is fair game to you.. Anything that points away from your >>>> poor behavior standards. >>>> >>>> Don't really matter to me. How your Soul responds when you go through >>>> your transition matters to you though. >>>> >>>> The problem with delusion is you can not hide from your own soul. I >>>> ended up going down a lot of rat holes and my department took mental >>>> health >>>> very seriously.. >>>> >>>> There is something about my sigline that really pushes your moral >>>> buttons.. People that avoid murder, rape and enslavement of others have no >>>> problem with it at all. People that are involved with those type of >>>> activities will have a problem though. The other problem is 1984 is closer >>>> than you realize,, but I might be delusional there do you think so? >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Gabby <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 1:30 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Delusions >>>> >>>> Oh come on, Allan! I am still waiting for your excuse back in the >>>> religion thread! Don't avoid your responsibility there! 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