The we-wonder barkology back on track. Am Freitag, 20. Februar 2015 schrieb archytas :
> In 1972 *Limits to Growth* had this to say - also strikingly religious: > > We affirm finally that any deliberate attempt to reach a rational and > enduring state of equilibrium by planned measures, rather than by chance or > catastrophe, must ultimately be founded on a basic change of values and > goals at individual, national and world levels. > > We might wonder, on diversity, how anthropocentric we actually are. > > On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 8:41:02 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >> >> Genesis 1:27-8 states: “God created man in his own image, in the image of >> God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, >> and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, >> and subdue it: and have dominion over fish of the sea, and over fowl of the >> air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.” >> >> This is a bit more than just 'replenish'. >> >> On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 8:28:24 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>> >>> The finds were originally cited as 'bible proof'. >>> >>> On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 8:12:28 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> As for the Matterhorn I didn't believe it was watching a program on >>>> continental development.. The top is africa. >>>> >>>> It is knowing what to look for.. >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>> Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 8:54 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: The religious atheist >>>> >>>> It was always one of my dumb spots Allan. There were loads around on >>>> beaches where I was counting dog-whelk 'teeth'. I somehow missed them >>>> until I was shown what to look for. As for 'Africa' folding over the >>>> Matterhorn, this is yet another example of not being able to think in big >>>> time and how much one needs to know to see what evidence is. I can never >>>> really understand how buildings from comparatively recent times end up >>>> buried, presumably because this is not something we see in a lifetime. >>>> >>>> On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 7:22:26 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thats a long time.. >>>>> Fossils are not really hard to find its more a matter of knowing >>>>> where to look.. They are very much a part of the geological record in my >>>>> home state of Montana.. >>>>> One of the strangest records is the top of the Matterhorn wich is from >>>>> the african continent. >>>>> Weird but true.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: archytas <[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 7:42 PM >>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: The religious atheist >>>>> >>>>> Type II since I was 19. Just changed to a tablet that removes sugars >>>>> from blood via kidneys. Disrupts the rest of the digestive system less, >>>>> which has been a big problem the last ten years. >>>>> >>>>> I am still amazed by people who find fossils and how they sniff them >>>>> out. I may as well be hunting truffles without a pig. I have the same >>>>> difficulty with evolution and time, but guess I have no real concept of >>>>> the >>>>> vastness of time I explored the idea of a civilization 4 billion years >>>>> older than ours that is no longer libidinal, do energy matter conversion >>>>> and so on - and found I lacked imagination. Must be my >>>>> zombie-moron-lack-of-diversity gene. I can't understand how we walked out >>>>> of the sea, or whatever precursor did. We have seen lizards evolve in >>>>> real >>>>> time in the West Indies somewhere. I guess I can see survival mechanisms >>>>> in transition. Genetics and increasingly epigenetics do tell us a lot >>>>> about biological change. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not much concerned religious text gets so much wrong. Deprived of >>>>> modern science I don't think I would have a clue. We can invent stories >>>>> now and one looks much like another in terms of plot, genre and characters >>>>> from Attic tragedy and comedy. Visitations from gods and angels seem very >>>>> unlikely, pretty much like monetary policy. I favour looking at the stuff >>>>> as fiction, quite a common matter in history and source evaluation. >>>>> >>>>> The Mars trip is throwing up some interesting fuel-saving dodges One >>>>> is to chuck us out in front of the planet so its gravity pulls us in, and >>>>> to slow us down in its atmosphere to save braking fuel. This would leave >>>>> enough propulsion energy to get us back using a similar trick with Earth. >>>>> Europa is my preferred destination, though gravity and radiation effects >>>>> from Jupiter pose extra problems. Life at either venue would pose some >>>>> interesting questions, hopefully through a universal translator. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 5:42:46 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm in on the trip to mars when it becomes a round trip ticket. >>>>>> Hell, I'l go to Europa when the price is right! >>>>>> >>>>>> The fossil record doesn't bother me other than there really shouldn't >>>>>> be one. Not because they didn't exist but because a fossil in nature's >>>>>> world is an anomaly, not a given means of preservation. Dead things get >>>>>> eaten and usually don't wait for a massive world reaching demise. In the >>>>>> mythos when man was "placed" here as a teenager they weren't asked to >>>>>> start >>>>>> fresh but to "Replenish" which seems to indicate something was before >>>>>> which >>>>>> isn't now. So many fossils, so little time. Time does not favor >>>>>> evolution, unless there is an orchestrated change. Nature doesn't like a >>>>>> vacuum but it abhors change even more. Genetics favors things staying >>>>>> the >>>>>> same so that the food cycle remains constant and precipitously balanced. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','minds-eye%[email protected]');> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','minds-eye%[email protected]');> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/yDzn3Mhp_8I/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','minds-eye%[email protected]');> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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