Thats a long time..  
Fossils  are not really hard to find its more a matter of knowing where to 
look..   They are very much a part of the geological record in my home state of 
Montana.. 
One of the strangest records is the top of the Matterhorn wich is from the 
african continent. 
Weird but true.. 


تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 7:42 PM
Subject: Mind's Eye Re: The religious atheist

Type II since I was 19.  Just changed to a tablet that removes sugars from 
blood via kidneys.  Disrupts the rest of the digestive system less, which 
has been a big problem the last ten years.

I am still amazed by people who find fossils and how they sniff them out. 
 I may as well be hunting truffles without a pig.  I have the same 
difficulty with evolution and time, but guess I have no real concept of the 
vastness of time  I explored the idea of a civilization 4 billion years 
older than ours that is no longer libidinal, do energy matter conversion 
and so on - and found I lacked imagination.  Must be my 
zombie-moron-lack-of-diversity gene.  I can't understand how we walked out 
of the sea, or whatever precursor did.  We have seen lizards evolve in real 
time in the West Indies somewhere.  I guess I can see survival mechanisms 
in transition.  Genetics and increasingly epigenetics do tell us a lot 
about biological change.

I'm not much concerned religious text gets so much wrong.  Deprived of 
modern science I don't think I would have a clue.  We can invent stories 
now and one looks much like another in terms of plot, genre and characters 
from Attic tragedy and comedy.  Visitations from gods and angels seem very 
unlikely, pretty much like monetary policy.  I favour looking at the stuff 
as fiction, quite a common matter in history and source evaluation.

The Mars trip is throwing up some interesting fuel-saving dodges   One is 
to chuck us out in front of the planet so its gravity pulls us in, and to 
slow us down in its atmosphere to save braking fuel.  This would leave 
enough propulsion energy to get us back using a similar trick with Earth. 
 Europa is my preferred destination, though gravity and radiation effects 
from Jupiter pose extra problems.  Life at either venue would pose some 
interesting questions, hopefully through a universal translator.

On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 5:42:46 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>
> I'm in on the trip to mars when it becomes a round trip ticket.  Hell, I'l 
> go to Europa when the price is right!
>
> The fossil record doesn't bother me other than there really shouldn't be 
> one.  Not because they didn't exist but because a fossil in nature's world 
> is an anomaly, not a given means of preservation.  Dead things get eaten 
> and usually don't wait for a massive world reaching demise.  In the mythos 
> when man was "placed" here as a teenager they weren't asked to start fresh 
> but to "Replenish" which seems to indicate something was before which isn't 
> now.  So many fossils, so little time.   Time does not favor evolution, 
> unless there is an orchestrated change.  Nature doesn't like a vacuum but 
> it abhors change even more.  Genetics favors things staying the same so 
> that the food cycle remains constant and precipitously balanced. 
>

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