Thank you again for the added value Jack Russell ankle snapping Gabby.

There were supposedly Androgens once.  If a man and a woman hugged tightly 
enough, one was supposed to emerge.  I suppose with our diversity 
scrutineer so active, we have to ponder on different outcomes for 
homosexual squeezing.

"It was said that before, in the origin of times, there were three sexes; 
male, female, and androgens. Original humans do not look like how we humans 
look today. Humans before were said to be twice of each person now, with 
two heads, two pair of eyes, two pair of lips, four hands, four feet, two 
bodies, two hearts, and of course two genitals."  Zeus put an end to it 
because they dared to climb Mount Olympus.

There is no fossil record, rather supporting your earlier theory Tony.  A 
lovely woman I did my postgrad with introduced me to the idea.  Hugging 
does increase hormonal androgens.



On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 10:40:48 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>
> The we-wonder barkology back on track.
>
> Am Freitag, 20. Februar 2015 schrieb archytas :
>
>> In 1972 *Limits to Growth* had this to say - also strikingly religious:
>>
>> We affirm finally that any deliberate attempt to reach a rational and 
>> enduring state of equilibrium by planned measures, rather than by chance or 
>> catastrophe, must ultimately be founded on a basic change of values and 
>> goals at individual, national and world levels.
>>
>> We might wonder, on diversity, how anthropocentric we actually are.
>>
>> On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 8:41:02 PM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> Genesis 1:27-8 states: “God created man in his own image, in the image 
>>> of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed 
>>> them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the 
>>> earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over fish of the sea, and over fowl 
>>> of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.” 
>>>
>>> This is a bit more than just 'replenish'.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 8:28:24 PM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The finds were originally cited as 'bible proof'.  
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 8:12:28 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the Matterhorn I didn't  believe it was watching a program on 
>>>>> continental development.. The top is africa. 
>>>>>
>>>>> It is knowing what to look for.. 
>>>>>
>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 8:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: The religious atheist
>>>>>
>>>>> It was always one of my dumb spots Allan.  There were loads around on 
>>>>> beaches where I was counting dog-whelk 'teeth'.  I somehow missed them 
>>>>> until I was shown what to look for.  As for 'Africa' folding over the 
>>>>> Matterhorn, this is yet another example of not being able to think in big 
>>>>> time and how much one needs to know to see what evidence is.  I can never 
>>>>> really understand how buildings from comparatively recent times end up 
>>>>> buried, presumably because this is not something we see in a lifetime.  
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 7:22:26 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats a long time..  
>>>>>> Fossils  are not really hard to find its more a matter of knowing 
>>>>>> where to look..   They are very much a part of the geological record in 
>>>>>> my 
>>>>>> home state of Montana.. 
>>>>>> One of the strangest records is the top of the Matterhorn wich is 
>>>>>> from the african continent. 
>>>>>> Weird but true.. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 7:42 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: The religious atheist
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Type II since I was 19.  Just changed to a tablet that removes sugars 
>>>>>> from blood via kidneys.  Disrupts the rest of the digestive system less, 
>>>>>> which has been a big problem the last ten years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am still amazed by people who find fossils and how they sniff them 
>>>>>> out.  I may as well be hunting truffles without a pig.  I have the same 
>>>>>> difficulty with evolution and time, but guess I have no real concept of 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> vastness of time  I explored the idea of a civilization 4 billion years 
>>>>>> older than ours that is no longer libidinal, do energy matter conversion 
>>>>>> and so on - and found I lacked imagination.  Must be my 
>>>>>> zombie-moron-lack-of-diversity gene.  I can't understand how we walked 
>>>>>> out 
>>>>>> of the sea, or whatever precursor did.  We have seen lizards evolve in 
>>>>>> real 
>>>>>> time in the West Indies somewhere.  I guess I can see survival 
>>>>>> mechanisms 
>>>>>> in transition.  Genetics and increasingly epigenetics do tell us a lot 
>>>>>> about biological change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not much concerned religious text gets so much wrong.  Deprived 
>>>>>> of modern science I don't think I would have a clue.  We can invent 
>>>>>> stories 
>>>>>> now and one looks much like another in terms of plot, genre and 
>>>>>> characters 
>>>>>> from Attic tragedy and comedy.  Visitations from gods and angels seem 
>>>>>> very 
>>>>>> unlikely, pretty much like monetary policy.  I favour looking at the 
>>>>>> stuff 
>>>>>> as fiction, quite a common matter in history and source evaluation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mars trip is throwing up some interesting fuel-saving dodges   
>>>>>> One is to chuck us out in front of the planet so its gravity pulls us 
>>>>>> in, 
>>>>>> and to slow us down in its atmosphere to save braking fuel.  This would 
>>>>>> leave enough propulsion energy to get us back using a similar trick with 
>>>>>> Earth.  Europa is my preferred destination, though gravity and radiation 
>>>>>> effects from Jupiter pose extra problems.  Life at either venue would 
>>>>>> pose 
>>>>>> some interesting questions, hopefully through a universal translator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 5:42:46 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm in on the trip to mars when it becomes a round trip ticket.  
>>>>>>> Hell, I'l go to Europa when the price is right!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fossil record doesn't bother me other than there really 
>>>>>>> shouldn't be one.  Not because they didn't exist but because a fossil 
>>>>>>> in 
>>>>>>> nature's world is an anomaly, not a given means of preservation.  Dead 
>>>>>>> things get eaten and usually don't wait for a massive world reaching 
>>>>>>> demise.  In the mythos when man was "placed" here as a teenager they 
>>>>>>> weren't asked to start fresh but to "Replenish" which seems to indicate 
>>>>>>> something was before which isn't now.  So many fossils, so little time. 
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> Time does not favor evolution, unless there is an orchestrated change.  
>>>>>>> Nature doesn't like a vacuum but it abhors change even more.  Genetics 
>>>>>>> favors things staying the same so that the food cycle remains constant 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> precipitously balanced. 
>>>>>>>
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