Reference.
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com

There is the link to the geno project i was referring to. There is no doubt 
that India played a major role. It really us a fascinating story they had a TV 
program giving the initial results,. There us an ongoing project the cost is 
200€ I am  thinking about spending the money to be part of the project.

DNA is a fascinating studies.

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.

In fact, several experts, such as Lluís Quintana-Murci,20 Vincent 
Macaulay,21 Stephen Oppenheimer,22 Michael Petraglia,23 and their 
associates, have in the last few years proposed that when Homo sapiens 
migrated out of Africa, he first reached South-West Asia around 75,000 BP, 
and from here, went on to other parts of the world. In simple terms, except 
for Africans, all humans have ancestors in the North-West of the Indian 
peninsula. In particular, one migration started around 50,000 BP towards 
the Middle East and Western Europe:

“indeed, nearly all Europeans — and by extension, many Americans — can 
trace their ancestors to only four mtDNA lines, which appeared between 
10,000 and 50,000 years ago and originated from South Asia.” 24   India 
acted “as an incubator of early genetic differentiation of modern humans 
moving out of Africa.”26

There is some superb Indian work that denies the Aryan myth, which can't be 
supported by genetics or archaeology Indian biologist, Sanghamitra Sahoo, 
headed eleven colleagues, including T. Kivisild and V. K. Kashyap, for a 
study of the Y-DNA of 936 samples covering 77 Indian populations, 32 of 
them tribes.18 The authors left no room for doubt:

“The sharing of some Y-chromosomal haplogroups between Indian and Central 
Asian populations is most parsimoniously explained by a deep, common 
ancestry between the two regions, with diffusion of some Indian- specific 
lineages northward.”

So the southward gene flow that had been imprinted on our minds for two 
centuries was wrong, after all: the flow was out of, not into, India. The 
authors continue:
“The Y-chromosomal data consistently suggest a largely South Asian origin 
for Indian caste communities and therefore argue against any major influx, 
from regions north and west of India, of people associated either with the 
development of agriculture or the spread of the Indo-Aryan language family.”
.

I summarised this from - 
  http://archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/genetics-aryan-debate - references 
can be found there.

It seems we are likely 'cousins' RP, which we are in spirit anyway.  It 
seems what became European left India and the Aryans are a myth of colonial 
fantasists.  I must admit my research has been limited, but I like the idea.


On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 10:44:33 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>
> The North Indians are Aryans, and it has been mentioned in all religious 
> texts. I know Germans are also Aryans, don't know about the rest.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:04 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> More than a tad 'whiteist' Tony.
>
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 5:25:47 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>
> Yes I looked it up and found it definitely has some genetic/trait 
> differences but still is a tad racist.
>
> But dark skinned Indians were never considered Negroid.  Not enough 
> similar facial or hair characteristics. 
>
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 1:10:53 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>
> ...

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