I can buy that.. no problem. . تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
-----Original Message----- From: Molly <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 2:29 AM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for? I'm a vegan. On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 7:45:33 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: > > Nah! They don't meet the general humanity features for species inclusion. > > > On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:40:49 UTC+1, Chris Jenkins wrote: >> >> Hmmm...vegans? >> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:55 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Consider it done Chris. We have some room on the evil list too. Any >>> suggestions? >>> >>> >>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:33:28 PM UTC+1, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>>> >>>> A week in Clearwater is a prize, not a punishment! I humbly request to >>>> be placed back on the weird list, though. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 6:11 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've removed you from my weird list Chris, moving you to 'modern >>>>> iconoclast' with an 'invite to parties' star. The only higher plane is >>>>> 'brings more beer than she drinks and brings a sister not an alter'. I >>>>> shall have one of the group imps admonish the Heretic for his error. The >>>>> normal sanction would be a week in Clearwater, but he is a repeat >>>>> offender >>>>> and may need two weeks or the full half-hour tour of Bolton architecture. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:02:52 PM UTC+1, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It's also accurate. ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 1:59 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry. I was informed of my error in the time line.. you were in >>>>>>> charged when joined ME.. the weird fellow was meant as humorous. . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: Minds-Eye <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 7:30 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, Craig is the weird fellow that started the group. I'm just the >>>>>>> one who accepted the mantle when he left. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris is the weird fellow that started the ME group.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: James Lynch <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 1:39 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good >>>>>>>> for? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Dance like a butterfly sting like a bee' fair lady. Silence feels >>>>>>>> like cowardice to me Allan. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey Tony, glad to hear Andrew and Fran too! Who's this Chris fellow? >>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2015 6:10 PM, "Gabby Thiede" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't let yourself get distracted, Allan! I am the evil bitch >>>>>>>>> here! You need to fight with me! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2015 schrieb : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you are so neutral why are you promoting the benefits of war.. >>>>>>>>>> Are you for war or against war.. your lip flapping is anything >>>>>>>>>> but neutral. It does not take bravery to be neutral but rather >>>>>>>>>> cowardice. >>>>>>>>>> . Those wanting to profit from war while hiding. . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I do not like .. i have seen the harm it does and there is no >>>>>>>>>> neutrality. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good >>>>>>>>>> for? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are >>>>>>>>>> immoral. Judges in order to do their job right have to remain >>>>>>>>>> neutral. >>>>>>>>>> Parents should as well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more >>>>>>>>>> bravery >>>>>>>>>> than taking sides. As an example, some countries and some people >>>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>>> homosexuality immoral. In those situations, it takes courage to take >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> neutral stand regarding homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and >>>>>>>>>> unconditional respect.Who is to say what is moral and what is not. >>>>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>>>> something regarded as morally correct at one time can be regarded >>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> immorally wrong at another time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Neutrality is afraid of taking a position. A cowards way out.. >>>>>>>>>>> how now to stand up for what is morally correct.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of >>>>>>>>>>> war far out weight any of the few positive consequences. >>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other means, >>>>>>>>>>> especially in the modern times that we live in.: >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by >>>>>>>>>>> universities and government and private projects with monetary and >>>>>>>>>>> merit >>>>>>>>>>> rewards. >>>>>>>>>>> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via >>>>>>>>>>> tourism and exchange projects and the internet. >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy >>>>>>>>>>> and sanctions. >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing >>>>>>>>>>> and contraception. >>>>>>>>>>> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and >>>>>>>>>>> that the brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have a >>>>>>>>>>> common >>>>>>>>>>> enemy in that if nature is exploited further we are all threatened. >>>>>>>>>>> If you >>>>>>>>>>> love your enemies, then you will not have any. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars. >>>>>>>>>>> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and direct >>>>>>>>>>> democracy. >>>>>>>>>>> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, >>>>>>>>>>> appreciation of diversity, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Examples are: >>>>>>>>>>> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact >>>>>>>>>>> and let them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago. >>>>>>>>>>> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy of >>>>>>>>>>> the cantons and the refusal to join Euro. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Very interesting question you pose Molly. >>>>>>>>>>>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative consequences >>>>>>>>>>>> to war, which seems to be a part of human nature. I like to >>>>>>>>>>>> believe that >>>>>>>>>>>> there is always 2 sides to everything - positive and negative. War >>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>> weapons and fighting with words have some common ground, like you >>>>>>>>>>>> suggest. >>>>>>>>>>>> Being an aggressor in a war and being a bully also share common >>>>>>>>>>>> ground. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are: >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied. >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if >>>>>>>>>>>> you are bullied. >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid >>>>>>>>>>>> of your friends who are bullied. >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of >>>>>>>>>>>> strangers who are bullied. >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much >>>>>>>>>>>> more difficult to spot of course: >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in >>>>>>>>>>>> times of peace. >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and genes. >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against aggressors. >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and >>>>>>>>>>>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population. >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus >>>>>>>>>>>> is claimed to have said, then you will not have any. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, >>>>>>>>>>>>> professor, playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused on >>>>>>>>>>>>> a wide >>>>>>>>>>>>> range of issues including race, class, war, and history, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> touched the >>>>>>>>>>>>> lives of countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the human race" http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some >>>>>>>>>>>>> of us), in interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human >>>>>>>>>>>>> race. 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