Gardens, I have found, come with back pain. Your small amount may soon affect the small of your back Allan.
On Wednesday, 15 April 2015 15:08:02 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > It is nice to know we are not alone in home projects.. finally i get a > small amount garden.. > > It id nice to know the young kids are being drawing into creative > projects.. please keep me informed of what is going on.. > > Politics is really boring. . The latest republican candidate has raised > my eye brow. Sounds like he is going to let Clinton take on the rampant > corruption then ride the propaganda surf.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Propaganda > > I am about to turn TV off and go strictly to streaming. The political > scene isn't worth my time much anymore, and it woes me to see my younger > family members buying in to the rhetoric. Yeah - Hillary Clinton will fight > for the middle class - (after she has redistributed the global wealth into > her pocket through her foundation.) None of it moves me anymore. > > Glad spring is here. I've enlisted my resident carpenter to help me create > a circle study for the garden shed and have begun painting again. that > ought to keep me happy until the snow begins to fall. > > At work we have begun to engage the young creative culture into making and > sharing video downtown. These kids have imagination and enthusiasm. Very > contagious. The politics and economy go on without my influence, (and > unless it all happens in my wake) it seems nothing calls me there. I feel > grateful. > > On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 4:10:45 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Hmm. April 15th is tax filing day. I fully understand. Just fished >> doing my taxes both here and in the states.. two different countries >> wanting taxes on the same money. My tax rate is very high.. >> As for the bribery well there is a new one here. And it will be >> interesting in the outcome. . Both banks and the police are involved., >> >> Bribery in the states realising I am an expat.. I am aware and concerned >> as what is going on.. because I am not in the states I am not bombarded by >> the constant propaganda. Until I came to the Netherlands it didn't bother >> me because didn't know different. >> >> Today it seems the propaganda has greatly increased. I see massively >> excessive amounts of money flowing freely and politicians getting richer or >> at least it seems that way.. like the weasel bush buying a huge ranch for >> less money than we paid for our house. >> >> All this what I consider inappropriate political behaviour was quickly >> covered up by the spin doctors with propganda.. they have no laws to stop >> them. Wait a minute there are laws against bribery but who is going to >> enforce them the politicians wait a minute they are benefiting so why >> would they.. >> >> The news stations are interested in sensationalism rather than reporting >> news for the benefit of society.. for them it is all about selling >> propaganda and they do that by selling numbers not truth. >> We wondr why society seems to be going to hell in a hand basket. . >> >> >> >> Bad pun >> >> >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Don Johnson <[email protected]> >> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 8:43 AM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Propaganda >> >> Damn no wonder all youse Euros hate our guts if this dross is what passes >> for journalism across the pond. I did like the "War of Northern Agression" >> referance tho. That's what the Rebs called it. Of course the Emancipation >> Proclamation was political. So was Lincoln saying he had no intentions of >> ending slavery when he was trying to get elected. Of course he was working >> for/with the capitalists they paid for just about everything including the >> war. The man sure could turn a phrase tho, couldn't he? Churchill was like >> that as well. What a pair of bastard politicians these fucks were. >> >> We need lies Neil. This near atheist agnostic believes we need God. Not >> the asshole but the forgiving, male, blue-eyed and blond hippie dude. >> Peace, love and all that. We need the xtian work ethic and the charity. >> These things exist. I see them in person fairly frequently. Is there a dark >> side? Absolutely. Are there ratfuck preachers and priests? You betcha. >> Should we paint the entire institution with the pedo brush? I don't think >> so. Civilization needs moral structure. The ChiComs and the Soviets wanted >> to replace God with the State. Nice try; never gonna work. They both >> figured this out. Society needs the lies. Perhaps we need them about our >> leaders as well. >> >> That article had me mostly nodding in agreement right up until it >> mentions the West's staunch ally Vladimir Putin. Piss. You want to talk >> about Emperors this is the guy. Real scary guy. I just read Red Notice by >> Bill Browder. It's scary as fuck to see what can happen to a country when >> 20 or so super rich people run the show with no regard for law and order. I >> see us all headed down this path. America is attacking itself. Like a dog >> chewing it's own leg off. The Federal government using Alinsky tactics to >> subdue "upstarts." Rules For Radicals being used by the powers in the White >> House. Facist attacks on State government trying to protect religious >> freedoms originally passed on the Federal level bipartisanly by Bill >> Clinton himself. >> >> I'm tellin ya, I am not liking what I'm seeing. And to top it all off I >> have to send a big fat check to the lying, scum sucking, filthy election >> fixing bastards at the IRS today. People suck. >> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:03 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Your clear ethical and moral foundation is fine Allan. Mine might be >>> half-good. But most people think they have such a foundation. So no >>> answers there I suspect. >>> >>> Across anthropology we find people with clear ethical and moral >>> foundations based on absolute crap. And people are firmly Xtian one day, >>> firmly Muslim the next - women convert easier which may be because they >>> don't have to go through adult circumcision. So what were the form beliefs >>> really? They say the brave man dies only once, the coward a hundred times >>> - yet dying ain't a good move in competitive evolution. Altruism and >>> heroism should die out, yet in fact, even celibacy runs in families! >>> >>> The propaganda can seem political - yet it is surely in deeper than >>> that. People believe they can spot the bad guy and can make sensible >>> decisions when they are very ignorant of facts and how to get them. >>> >>> I'm sure I'm right on this and that the implications for rational >>> dialogue are that it is more or less excluded from our public domain. You >>> and I don't need to 'do rational' with each other Allan - though I suppose >>> we lapse to it from time to time. I suspect some of the young fogey >>> Americans who used to grace these pages will be amazed at what they said a >>> few years back after the next crash. They generally think they are >>> rational, though I saw no sign of that. Don always struck me as the most >>> consistent and honest. >>> >>> The mistake may be our insistence on 'being rational' - when we mean >>> don't be nasty all the time, don't swear and other stuff. We are way too >>> dumb to distinguish rationality from convention. >>> >>> I've been wondering why the propaganda is all so bad - stuff like the TV >>> Westerns, the soaps and on to NCIS and nearly all films are truly dreadful >>> in standard. Something like this has been happening across education - >>> we've been calling this dumbing down but I suspect coercion. >>> >>> Be good to be able to do something, other than just die thinking we >>> missed the worst! >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 15:22:55 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree there are deeper mechanism of propaganda than anyone realises. >>>> In our world it is so prevelant that it goes unnoticed .. everything from >>>> the blatant to the subliminal. 40 years ago the amount of information >>>> available was truly amazing. . Today the information available makes >>>> intelligence of forty years ago look like a starvation diet. The saving >>>> grace is i think the ability to interpret it lacks the connection to >>>> understand as intelligence is becoming dependent on computers. >>>> By the same idea propaganda is much more controlled. Psychology is >>>> playing a much greater roll as it has a much greater understanding of >>>> human >>>> response. With that greater knowledge of human psychology the ability to >>>> apply this psychology in the form of extremely effective propaganda. . >>>> Over >>>> here there is a new republican declared candidate that needs watching.. >>>> he has a team in the background running full blown propaganda network >>>> guiding him through the maze.. and they know what they are doing.. he is >>>> dangerous as I know little about him.. the keywords are there and in >>>> place. Very scary.. >>>> >>>> Now the only way I see to escape the constant manipulation and control >>>> lies in a clear moral and ethical foundation. >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 12:05 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Propaganda >>>> >>>> My guess is deeper mechanisms than we know have been at work in keeping >>>> us ignorant and probably have a big role in making us sick. Not sure what >>>> you mean by herbarium here - tends to have me thinking of plants. >>>> >>>> Going to make myself a cup of tea. Weather colder than promised and am >>>> waiting for the sun to break through before taking the hounds on a >>>> riverbank rampage. Might do a bacon roll too. Or crawl back into bed. >>>> It's not really cold - but we were promised decent sunshine and I'm >>>> disappointed. Tea will bring me round. >>>> >>>> Propaganda critique usually winds up as a kind of propaganda itself, >>>> often going too far. We need some spirit to break loose, but the usual >>>> one >>>> so far has been fascism. This relies on most people being switched off >>>> from thinking. They need that coral snake applied to ass! >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 10:14:43 AM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That was interesting article or peice. Years ago I spent a summer >>>>> volunteering at old civil war fort.. found a bottle while making a >>>>> bridge.. was going to keep it until I found it was a herbarium specimen >>>>> of >>>>> a coral snake. Turned it in then everything became really interesting as >>>>> the archeology department of the state Georgia showed up.. turned out >>>>> the >>>>> moat was cleaned 5 years before the civil war. The interest turned to >>>>> who >>>>> had the knowledge to make such a specimen. . (Never did find out) >>>>> They showed me a side of the civil war i never had heard of before.. >>>>> said the emancipation proclaimation was to prevent slaves from being >>>>> forced >>>>> to fight against the union forces. It also freed the irish slave England >>>>> had sold in America. >>>>> Slavery still exists today world wide it is part of the hidden >>>>> underbelly of society. . All societies. . >>>>> When you sort out the justification babble there are not many >>>>> guidelines. . What I read was someone trying to rewrite history.. as you >>>>> look through history what I keep seeing people trying to control others >>>>> by >>>>> any means. Oftentimes the strangest propaganda is given. >>>>> The author of the piece sounds like he is English as it appears the >>>>> English leadership is empire orientated . Why is this person trying to >>>>> create a history I never heard before.. >>>>> I think cuntocracy controlled by spin doctors is a good discription >>>>> .. a few people will actually see the truth and learn to walk a >>>>> different >>>>> path.. >>>>> >>>>> Can this reality be a testing ground seeing how the soul responds.. >>>>> if that is true it make for one ¿mean? test. Especially when there is no >>>>> fail grade just the determination of your future reality. . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 3:17 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Propaganda >>>>> >>>>> I suppose a lot depends on how far it has all gone Allan. I think >>>>> we've been had to such a degree that rational discussion is not possible >>>>> for most people. I don't even believe we know the reasons for such as >>>>> our >>>>> 'civil wars' and WW1 & WW2. This view on Lincoln is a classic of the 'we >>>>> get history upside down' brigade I tend to agree with - >>>>> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-13/paul-craig- >>>>> roberts-america-will-be-hard-pressed-survive-lies-it-lives >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 6:48:30 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Modern beliefs >>>>>> Words spinning free >>>>>> Concepts >>>>>> >>>>>> Ideas twisted >>>>>> Bent to fit desires >>>>>> Spiritually >>>>>> >>>>>> Propaganda >>>>>> Flowing unabated daily >>>>>> Spin doctors rule >>>>>> >>>>>> Confused beliefs >>>>>> Dictating life conditions >>>>>> With God >>>>>> >>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 4:49 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Propaganda >>>>>> >>>>>> I once thought we could wander about under a shield of innocence >>>>>> Allan - and perhaps one can personally. The problem seems to be that >>>>>> when >>>>>> one looks around, everyone else is infected. Some of us have started >>>>>> calling the current state of affairs a "cuntocracy" - >>>>>> https://pinkindustry.wordpress.com/sociology/ >>>>>> >>>>>> I tend to think very few of us are actually economically active >>>>>> directly and are already reclusive in bullshit jobs and retirement - >>>>>> even >>>>>> if we still look after our kids and put what seems a full week in. I >>>>>> think >>>>>> education may have been so bad that most people might struggle to fill a >>>>>> couple of sides of A4 on memories of it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 3:08:21 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When it comes to praganda nothing surprises me. It seem we live in >>>>>>> world totally manipulated by propaganda that is in total control or >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> least tries to control our reality. . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My questions lie along the line of how does one escape such intense >>>>>>> propaganda. . Become isolated recluses? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 3:34 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Propaganda >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We like to think we can do rational discussion, yet there is now so >>>>>>> much propaganda in our society it is hard to believe many of us are >>>>>>> remotely prepared to argue with facts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.sprword.com/videos/psywar/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The situation is much worse than even this over-long video manages >>>>>>> to put over. Most entertainment drips with ideology and is made by >>>>>>> remarkably few people. I meet Americans who think propaganda critique >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> this is aimed at them. I would rather say that, if there are 174 >>>>>>> countries, there are 174 different versions of the propaganda. >>>>>>> Leadership >>>>>>> tells the same lies everywhere, adjusting only the heroes and victims. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One area that has been interesting me is the extent of propaganda in >>>>>>> the dire news and entertainment made available to us. Why are series >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> Bonanza to NCIS so bad? How do we end up with so many pro-police >>>>>>> series >>>>>>> given the weight of real incompetence and miscarriages of justice? How >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> lawyers ever be presented other than as vile, fee-sucking parasites in >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> system in which justice is a rare fluke? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The name 'Bellissario' is in the credits of Magnum PI and NCIS. >>>>>>> This and a very few others are involved in making much of our >>>>>>> entertainment, totally lacking in critical edge. The same wooden >>>>>>> actors >>>>>>> seem to dominate everything too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the UK, half our journalists come from public schools (ie very >>>>>>> high cost private schools) when only 7% of kids go to these bastions of >>>>>>> privilege. In the UK, it has taken a quarter of a century to bring the >>>>>>> truth about deaths at a soccer match to light (Hillsborough) - what >>>>>>> chance >>>>>>> then of the truth about wars and economics in such a secrecy-prone >>>>>>> society? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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