On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Adrien Nader <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014, Dongsheng Song wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Adrien Nader <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I believe --with-arch=core2 is a big issue for generic toolchains. It
>> > will create troubles which will be very annoying to pinpoint.
>> >
>> > Any x86_64/amd64/EM64T (I love how Intel always makes up awful names)
>> > already has SSE2 and there is little value in restricting this except in
>> > very specific situation which are better dealt on a case-by-case basis.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Adrien Nader
>> >
>>
>> Do you really meet this issue ? I can not image someone still running
>> 64 bit Windows on such old CPU.
>>
>> Intel core2 release in July 2006, shutdown in January 2010.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2
>
> I have troubles believing people still run XP but many do. :P
>
> The issue is rather when you look at the AMD CPUs.
> First models with SSE3 are from the end of 2007 (meaning you would still
> easily see machines with them at the end of 2008, even beginning of
> 2009).
> The real issue is with SSSE3 (one more 'S') since the first mobile CPUs
> with it have been released beginning of 2011 and the first desktop CPUs
> with it have been released end of 2011 are are still easily found.
>
> I have a machine without SSE3 in my living room (albeit it needs a new
> PSU), along with a machine without SSSE3 which is definitely running
> strong (in particular since the rate of CPU speed improvement has
> dramatically slowed down in the last few years).
>
> I don't think there is a point in making core2 the default; I don't
> think it will bring any improvements except when building multimedia
> stuff and even then it's not unlikely they don't provide hand-tuned
> assembly but even then, -mtune should do be able to bring the
> performance benefits on the newer CPUs while still running on the older
> ones.
>

I agree with you the performance view.

But from gcc view, Intel 64 cpu is: nocona, core2 or later. In my
memory, I never hear someone can run 64 bit windows on nocona without
problem. I know it's unfair for AMD CPUs, but both without -march and
with -march=<amd cpu type> give 3DNow defined, it's not acceptable for
Intel CPUs.

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