On Fri, Jun 1, 2012, at 03:27 PM, Nick Holland wrote:
> Otto gave you a good answer here, but I had already provided lots of 
> detail, so I'm sending anyway. :)
> 
> On 06/01/2012 01:04 PM, Scott McEachern wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm hoping that I'm missing something simple (like usual) and maybe
> > someone could straighten me out.
> >
> > I'm trying to add a pair of 3TB drives to my workstation, which I plan
> > on turning into a ~3TB RAID 1 array, and seem to be having difficulty
> > realizing the full size of the drives.
> >
> > The hardware is about a year old, and less than two years old according
> > to the BIOS date:
> >
> > bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "2103" date 06/18/2010
> > bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A785TD-V EVO
> >
> > (Correction, I've since updated the BIOS to the latest version, just in
> > case, and it reads like so:
> >
> > bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "2105" date 07/23/2010
> >
> > and it makes no difference.)
> >
> > (The full dmesg is below, but for now I'll just post the relevant bits.)
> >
> > The BIOS happily reports the two drives as present and of 3.0TB
> > capacity. OpenBSD seems to recognize this as well:
> >
> > sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <ATA, WDC WD5000AAKS-0, 05.0> SCSI3
> > 0/direct fixed naa.50014ee001cbd923
> > sd0: 476940MB, 512 bytes/sector, 976773168 sectors
> > sd1 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: <ATA, ST3000DM001-9YN1, CC4B> SCSI3
> > 0/direct fixed naa.5000c5004a6e56f1
> > sd1: 2861588MB, 512 bytes/sector, 5860533168 sectors
> > sd2 at scsibus0 targ 2 lun 0: <ATA, ST3000DM001-9YN1, CC4B> SCSI3
> > 0/direct fixed naa.5000c5004a5baa2e
> > sd2: 2861588MB, 512 bytes/sector, 5860533168 sectors
> 
> Life is good.
> 
> ...
> 
> > I just wanted to get on with my day and not have any fuss, so I issued
> > an "fdisk -iy sd1" command on the way to disklabel'ing things. I suspect
> > that's my error, because fdisk says this: (I've added some commas to
> > make for easier reading.)
> >
> > # fdisk sd1
> > Disk: sd1 geometry: 364801/255/63 [1,565,565,872 Sectors]
> > Offset: 0 Signature: 0xAA55
> > Starting Ending LBA Info:
> > #: id C H S - C H S [ start: size ]
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > 0: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused
> > 1: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused
> > 2: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused
> > *3: A6 0 1 2 - 97451 165 59 [ 64: 1,565,560,705 ] OpenBSD
> >
> > Uhm, that doesn't seem right
> 
> well. it's annoying, but "rightish". :)
> fdisk edits MBRs, MBR has a limit of 2TB on its structures.
> So...it looks like fdisk basically did a 3TB modulo 2TB.  I really 
> should save myself looking like a fool and check my math, but if I'm 
> wrong, it will teach you not to take what I say as gospel :)
> 
> Some OSs want you to switch to a new way of handling big disks, but I do 
> think OpenBSD will do what you want "natively".
> 
> ..
> > A drive with half the capacity seems to have double the numbers, but not
> > for geometry. I suspect that fdisk is lying to me, but I could be wrong.
> 
> you are right.
> 
> > Let's see what disklabel(8) has to say. On the 1.5TB drive, it looks
> > mostly like this (I've snipped some irrelevant partition data and added
> > commas to make big numbers easier to read):
> ..
> > total sectors: 2,930,277,168
> > boundstart: 64
> > boundend: 2930272065
> > drivedata: 0
> >
> > 16 partitions: (snipped)
> > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg]
> > c: 2,930,277,168 0 unused
> >
> > On the new 3TB drive, it looks like this:
> >
> > # disklabel sd1
> ..
> > total sectors: 5,860,533,168
> > boundstart: 64
> > boundend: 1565560769
> > drivedata: 0
> >
> > 16 partitions:
> > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg]
> > c: 5,860,533,168 0 unused
> >
> > Wait a minute here... disklabel seems to have correct data (ignoring the
> > duid). I'll bet I'm failing at grade four math, but that looks roughly
> > like a 3TB drive.
> 
> yes, it's a 3TB disk, but at the moment, disklabel is restricting you to 
> just the fdisk-marked part of the drive...which is as it should be.  You 
> generally don't want your OpenBSD partitions living outside the OpenBSD 
> MBR (fdisk) partition.
>    EXCEPT when the MBR isn't providing useful info.  Like now.
> 
> ...
> > At this point I'm wondering WTF is going on. Is this an OpenBSD-specific
> > problem? A BIOS issue? So I unplug all drives except one of the 3TB's,
> > install FreeBSD and tell it to use the whole drive. I get the exact same
> > results from their disklabel. Must be the hardware, right?
> 
> What you want to do is use the 'b' option of disklabel to redefine the 
> OpenBSD boundaries of the disk.  I do believe it will let you specify 
> the whole disk, and you can then do what you want.
> 
> A few words of warning...
> 
> * This really messes up your ability to multiboot, as non-OpenBSD OSs 
> will think anything beyond the fdisk/MBR partition might be available. 
> But then, most other OSs choke pretty badly at this point anyway.  may 
> not be that big a problem.
> * Lots of BIOSes that see >128G disks still won't let you boot from 
> partitions higher than 128G.
> * I haven't actually TRIED this.  I was planning on buying a 3TB disk to 
> experiment on and update FAQ14...but just before I did, there was this 
> little flood issue, and being a cheapskate, I didn't want to sink a lot 
> of money into a drive I didn't really need quite yet (or more 
> accurately, I need TWO of...)
> * Rebuilding the mirror will be a beast.
> * you don't want to fsck a 3TB file system, 'specially if it is 
> rebuilding the mirror at the same time, though with 12G RAM, you might 
> be able to do it.
> 
> Nick.
> 

Looks like Nick and OBSD could use a Donation.
Anyone here in the community willing to step up
and donate a couple 3TB drives?
I would if I could so I understand if some people can't,
but I'm sure there are a few people out there.

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