On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:39:02AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > n...@holland-consulting.net (Nick Holland), 2014.04.03 (Thu) 16:19 (CEST):
> > > On 04/03/14 04:29, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY wrote:
> > > > There's no anymore multilanguage pages ?
> > > 
> > > The problem was that few of the translations were kept up to date or
> > > complete.  Really, I'm amazed that the (volunteer) translators could
> > > keep up as well as they did, but it wasn't generally as up to date as
> > > things needed to be.
> > > 
> > > Old documentation is as bad or worse than no documentation.
> > > 
> > > And realistically, OpenBSD is rather English-centric.  Let's pretend the
> > > website was perfectly and instantly translated into your preferred
> > > language...
> > > ...then you want to see the details of something mentioned briefly in
> > > the FAQ and type
> > >     man pf.conf
> > > boom.  English.  Only.
> > > 
> > > Error messages?  English only.
> > 
> > $ cat /etc/foobar
> > cat: /etc/foobar: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
> > 
> > (EN: file or directory not found)
> 
> Marcus, thank you for your entirely reasonable response.
> 
> It is obvious you are arguing you want them all back.  In that case,
> please do bring all the translations back, and give the community
> gaurantees that you will maintain them with high quality from here on.
> 
> Come on, go at it.
> 
> If you cannot make those guarantees, then it seems like you are simply
> trying to push others to maintaining the subsystem.
> 
> You can decide what you do with your time, but you cannot decide what
> other people do with theirs.
> 

Here were my problems with contributing to translations:

1. Had to run release to do translations. I don't want to.
2. Had to get onto a different CVS server. Yuck.

Most of each translation does not change in any big way after done.

How about we do translations FOR -CURRENT?
It is always released six months later!

Run it off the regular CVS servers. Let pages get translated with small
diffs. If I want to translate just one sentence, why not? Eventually the
whole page will be done (many people contributing, not just one person)
and only need small updates.
The website is pretty essential to someone clueless, but brave.

Perhaps some ports for base commands only? man --lang=es rm or something
like that? How many minutes to just add a translation for rm, mv and cp?

Regularly I see people wanting something helpful to do, but they can't
program C or this or that, etc. This would give something for
non-developers to do and feel good about.

Chris Bennett

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