On Monday, August 25, 2014 5:08:36 PM Mihai Popescu wrote:
> > I feel your sarcasm, but really if it comes to browser stability and
> > resource usage, then yes... Windows XP/7 are better than my Unix 
boxen!
> > I'm not speaking about anything else, nor do I say browsing is
> > impossible on BSD.
> > I just make a comparison being a heavy day-work browser user.
> 
> Go to Windows only then, it is a simple choice. You make me laugh: you
> don't touch Chromium because it is from Google, but you are using
> Gmail!
> 
> Show me your study about browsers' stability and resources usage on
> OSes, please. No, the fact that you are a heavy user doesn't count!

Actually, I can somewhat understand his reaction. Let's not be so quick to 
judge here.  Yes, many "windows-primary" web browsers -DO- seem to 
be less-than-capable under Unix.

However, is that a problem with Unix? Or is that a problem with the 
browsers being -first developed- for Windows, and then ported to the 
other OSs.

There are also more restrictions on UNIX than on Windows, so when you -
do- exceed the limits on UNIX, apps misbehave because they aren't 
expecting to be told "No. You can't have more RAM" because on Windows, 
they ask for more RAM, they get more RAM.

Now, does this mean that windows is better? No. Not really.  What it means 
is, those browsers are not written with limits in mind.

What needs to be done is find the leaks and patch the leaks.. OR use 
browsers that are lighter and/or smarter about their memory usage.

For example, even the KDE browser: konqueror, seems to work MUCH 
faster and lighter on my older laptop, than do either Firefox OR Chromium.

This isn't to brag or say KDE is awesome and everything else sucks.. It's 
more to prove a point.

Many mainstream browsers simply require more cpu and RAM than they 
really should, especially on older systems.

The problem isn't with the OS. It's with the apps and with the limits that the 
user has defined..

The default limits in OpenBSD are great for servers, but for desktop 
usage and to run modern browsers (among other heavy apps) you need 
to jack up the limits quite a bit.

Just my $0.02USD

Chuck Burns

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