*sorry
should have been

If you can't drive - stick your thumb out, stfu, and enjoy the ride.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:32 PM, Zeb Packard <zeb.pack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> OpenBSD's man pages are a work of art. There's a cohesiveness to the base
> that "feels" like concrete, like you can build anything on top of it.I
> can't think of a lot of software projects that claim "correctness" as a
> goal. Aerospace, OpenBSD, DragonFlyBSD, SQL(?) and some academic
> exercises?! I remember reading "correctness" as an OpenBSD goal and
> wondering what the fuck was wrong with the world? Why is a "correct"
> operating system the outcast, the underdog?
>
> Correctness is the thing with OpenBSD (IMHO). When a system is correct -
> you don't need the regular gamut of crap in order to figure out what the
> frak's going on. A little trial and error, investigation, asking the
> "right" people the "right" questions, self reliance, persistence, and a
> little picking the lock will get you "in". Exploration, experimentation,
> explanation - dope it out.
>
> That said, if a prospect doesn't want to "pick the lock" & just wants the
> "key" they don't belong here. Keys cost money, pickin' locks/turnin'
> wrenches - that's free, been true since wayBack. If you want to ride -
> RIDE. If you can't drive - stick your thumb out and stfu.
>
> Plenty of people will read this, think it's bullshit and get further than
> I could hope. Others might take it as gospel and hopefully, bounce rather
> than flounce. But that's just me, ain't my show.
>
> All the docs I got for ya!
>
> Z
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Jan Lambertz <jd.arb...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Before working with OpenBSD, I thought archlinux had good documenation, (
>> the wiki ). On OpenBSD I rarely need more things than the man pages, the
>> ports PKG docs and tailing the logfiles. But I can understand that
>> sometimes it feels good for short term benefits to be able to use an up
>> and
>> running config for xy.
>> I've read the pf.conf manpage very often and still there is space for my
>> config to improve but I (believe) begin to understand how to configure it
>> properly and how it should be used. Never had that feeling with online
>> wikis. There I searched for xy, found an post that seems close to my
>> problem, copy paste, restart program and maybe it worked or not. Sometimes
>> this is faster but I definitely learned more with while reading manpages.
>> For my part I think it's not possible to build something better than the
>> manpages for its purpose. I do like other sources of information but this
>> is more about projects. Someone built xy with OpenBSD and wrote an article
>> about it. Share your stories via undeadly or whatever. Build an index that
>> lists cool OpenBSD Projects for everyone to find. And the rest is up to
>> the
>> user and man(1)
>>
>
>

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