On Tue, 5 May 2026, Roderick wrote:

Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 16:02:07 +0000
From: Roderick <[email protected]>
To: OpenBSD misc <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: mail account @openbsd.com

Am Di., 5. Mai 2026 um 13:59 Uhr schrieb Jonas Bechtel <[email protected]>:

On the other hand you propose to use gmail; but by using gmail you put up a barrier so that self hosters cannot write to you.

gmail makes with mails sent from my self hosting server what Apple does with your provider: put the mail in the spam folder of the recipient in their accounts.

Self hosters can send to my gmail account: I read from time to time the spam folder in gmail. The problem you mention is not existent.

But if I send from my server to a gmail account, there is the risk that the recipient do not see the spam folder and my mail be ignored.

Recommending not to use gmail or applemail is sure a very good thing, but does not solve the problem, thousands of millions of possible recipients will still use them.

Rodrigo

Another possible alternative would be to open an account on vivaldi.net. It is free and you get, I think, up to 10 GB of mail storage.

By the way, as a result of this discussion, I resubscribed to the mailing list from my sdf account.

For some reason, though, I haven't been able to sign onto their OpenBSD server, beastie.sdf.org, this morning.

Eric

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