On Monday 22 May 2006 Liviu Daia wrote:
> On 22 May 2006, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Monday 22 May 2006 17:27, Liviu Daia wrote:
> > >     Ok, let me rephrase this.  How realistic will be to run an
> > > OpenBSD firewall or router without xbase a few years from now?

Extremely realistic. Base install of OpenBSD is an excellent
firewall and router platform, without the need for X.

what is *your* definition of a router or a firewall?

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> > > packages of console applications now depend on X at run time even
> > > though that could be avoided with minimal fuss (example: mrtg),
> >
> > It's even easier to *not* run mrtg *on* the router/firewall. SNMP,
> > symon and pfstatd exist for a reason.
> 
>     Sure, but that's not what I'm asking.

Sure, but that is not how it works in OpenBSD.

*You* submit patches, and make sure that these patches *work* not
only on your setup, but for everyone and every supported achitecture.

*You* work to get these patches committed. And everyone gets a better
system as a result.

Not contributing and only whining only gets you this far.


> > Also, so far I've only seen 1 "console application" that requires X at
> > runtime.
> [...]
> 
>     Mrtg, rrdtools, pftop, everything else depending on GD.

I am  sure pftop does _not_ depend on GD.

Regards

Can


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Can E. Acar, PhD, CISSP

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