blah blah blah

As usual you keep repeating what you said before but it _still_ does not
make it so.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 03:30:45PM +0000, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 06:52:56AM -0700, L wrote:
> > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 02:17:46PM -0600, Gregg Reynolds wrote:
> >>> For GPL-licensed software I recommend the term "covenant(ed)
> >>> software".  So-called "free software", as rms uses the term, is
> >>> totally dependent on the GPL, which leverages the State's monopoly on
> >>> violence to compel   modifiers of the software to offer their mods to
> >>> the public.
> >> Free Software as Richard Stallman uses the term is BSD.
> >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
> >> The GPL is merely a "covenant" license which closes the (mathmatical
> >> definition alike) ring of Free Software so all operations don't create a
> >> derivate outside that definition.
> >
> > Ring of Stallmanism, not free software.
> 
> No, the ring of Free Software, as defined by the Free Software
> Foundation, which is exactly the same kind of Free used in the OpenBSD
> context.
> 
> You may think otherwise, but you should better give evidence instead of
> insult, if you want to be taken seriously.
> 
> > Some definitions of free:
> >   Not under control of another, having liberty, independent
> >   Able to move in any direction, loose.
> >   etc.
> > Pulled right from a dictionary
> 
> 'free' != 'free software', but anyway:
>   1) software is always under the control of another by law
>   2) software isn't alive, it's not software who needs the freedom, it's
>      people
>   3) with zangband people are under the control of the zangband authors
>   4) with zangband, people haven't the independence to move in the direction
>      of profit
> 
> etc...
> 
> > I exercise my right to free speech, to be able to say that free software 
> > shall not be called free software unless it follows the dictionary term. 
> 
> The FSF definiton does follow your "dictionary" definition. As I said,
> it is *the* *same* as BSD's.
> 
> > What stops me from starting my OWN PERSONAL freedom definition on my site 
> > and my own PERSONAL 'freedom ring' that only allows people to join who have 
> > followed MY conditions? That is not freedom, that is Larsism or 505ism 
> > according to my own PERSONAL opinions.
> 
> You don't seem to understand that the GPL is a ring closure license for
> GPL'ed Free Software, not for all Free Software. The day you stop and
> cultivate yourself you'll avoid braindead statements like the one below:
> 
> > YOU HAVE ALL BEEN BRAINWASHED.
> > THOSE CUTE ANIMALS ON THE GNU WEBSITE WERE A PROPAGANDA TACTIC.
> 
> Cheers.
> Rui
> 
> -- 
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> + So let's do it...?

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