Unlike the western governments who don't give a shit about anyone or
anything as long as the super elite bankers are feeding them... As a British
citizen, I can say whole heartedly, mine and America's political system is
just BS, lets get the bankers to tell us what to do. Would you like an RFID
chip on the side of your plate of CCTV camera?



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of
Duncan Patton a Campbell
Sent: 18 May 2009 19:40
To: (private) HKS
Cc: misc
Subject: Re: Kylin

On Mon, 18 May 2009 11:08:33 -0400
"(private) HKS" <hks.priv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/5/18 Toma Bodar <tomas.bod...@gmail.com>:
> > Common,you think that big western companies which have support from
> > western governments care about it?And please don't make white knight
> > from western civilization.Everywhere are pros and cons.What type of
> > copyright and intellectual property you think?Like Disney which have
> > stories based on older stories,but he has law from government on it
> > now so original makers has nothing and Disney takes all?And when end
> > of this copyright is near some "magic" happen in government and
> > Disney (and others) has next 20 or 50 years.Sounds very respectable
> > for copyright and intellectual property of original authors ;-)
> >
> > Or maybe you think something like we have.When you create your own
> > song and sing it to people somewhere outside of your flat you must
> > pay to OSA(something like BSA terrorists,but local).WTH is
> > that.Sounds really like care about my copyright - I must pay for my
> > own song ;-)
> >
> > Informations are here for share and we can move forward thanks to
> > them.If some idiot have patent on double-click then what?One
> > developer must incorporated triple-click to his product,next
> > four-click and so on?Sounds like history - Earth is just pancake and
> > everyone who want to find another idea must use our idea or he will
> > be killed and who use our idea without our licence will be killed
> > too.Really we need those times back??????
>
> For Christ's sake, get off your fucking high horse. My quip was in
> response to your implication that China chose a BSD license because it
> fit better with their intentions than GPL or similar. As if they gave
> a shit.
>

Actually I think their decision was quite telling.  The Chinese Gove is not
unaware of intellectual property concerns, they just don't give a shit for
western idiots who patent wonton balls.

Dhu



> -HKS
>
>
> >
> > 2009/5/18 (private) HKS <hks.priv...@gmail.com>:
> >> 2009/5/17 Toma  Bod ar <tomas.bod...@gmail.com>:
> >>> I know,that's why they choose BSD-style licenced OS ;-)
> >>
> >> Yes, because China's respect for copyright and intellectual
> >> property is legendary.
> >>
> >> -HKS
> >>
> >>
> >>> 2009/5/17 Cem Kayali <cemkay...@eticaret.com.tr>:
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you really think Chineese governmnt make source public? Not
> >>>> all of
> >> course
> >>>> ;)
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jesus Sanchez, 05/17/09 20:58:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> TomC!E! BodE>C!r escribiC3:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> After quick search on web it looks like it's based on FreeBSD
> >>>>>> 5.3 (initial version) with Windows like GUI.So it doesn't looks
> >>>>>> so
secure
> >>>>>> now :-) But government agencies must have reason to receive
> >>>>>> money so why don't make "wave" about dangerous China with their
> >>>>>> new ultra-hyper-super secure system? Ofcourse that there can be
> >>>>>> interesting modifications.Maybe I will try it in Qemu :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the chinese government really feels so vulnerable against U.S.?
> >>>>> i mean, they say it like "the WWIII will begin soon and we need
> >>>>> to defend us on the cyberspace with our super-secure OS"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and after all they based it on FreeBSD? I'm a OpenBSD user and I
> >>>>> really feel that I've enought privacy, don't need a
> >>>>> super-secret-ultra-secure OS nor to say "Made In China" xD
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Dne 17. kvD ten 2009 19:28 TomC!E! BodE>C!r
> >>>>>> <tomas.bod...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> napsal(a):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Everyone can try it
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
>
http://www.honeytechblog.com/downlod-kylin-operating-system-by-chinaqingbo-w
u
> >>>>>> /
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2009/5/17 Duncan Patton a Campbell <campb...@neotext.ca>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I just noticed this:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.physorg.com/news161355225.html
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> about a "secure" os that's been under development in China
> >>>>>>>> since around 2k and is now being deployed by the Chinese Gov.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Interestingly, it is built for a "hardened"
> >>>>>>>> CPU that, I'd guess, lacks many of the advanced "features" of
> >>>>>>>> iNTel architecture cpus.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Anybody have any more info on this?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dhu

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