-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 So there's the space beneath the left deck - where the preview deck lives. The space on the other side is empty. Can the micaux array get shrunk a bit and fit over there? That would save some space, plus be nice and symmetrical.
~RAWRR On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:34:41 +0000 re-cy...@hushmail.com wrote: >On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:15:37 +0000 "Daniel Schürmann" ><dasch...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>If I recall it correct, it should help. >>This has also the benefit that you can see more tracks in the >>library. >> > >And whatever other controls as well... interesting. > >> >>Am 08.06.2015 um 23:10 schrieb re-cy...@hushmail.com: >>> Interesting re: CPU. What do you think about decreasing the >>height >>> but keeping the width re: CPU? >>> >>> ~RAWRR >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:00:52 +0000 "Daniel Schürmann" >>> <dasch...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>> > Hi Markus, >>> >>> > Nice mock-up. >>> >>> > In the past we had issues with four full size Waveforms >>because >>> > the CPU >>> > usage increases with the size. >>> > So I am afraid that view does not suit to be part of Mixxx >>default >>> > skin. >>> > IMHO we have already more then enough view options in the >>> > LateNight skin. >>> >>> > But there should be no problem with a recent devices. >>> > If this is the perfect skin for you use case, you are welcome >>to >>> > fork it. >>> > Thats the benefit of our skin engine. >>> >>> > Kind regards. >>> >>> > Daniel >>> >>> >>> >>> > Am 08.06.2015 um 18:42 schrieb Markus Klösges: >>> >>> Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? >>> >>> >>> >>> [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck >toggle] >>> >>> [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] >>> >>> waveform 1 >>> >>> waveform 2 >>> >>> waveform 3 >>> >>> waveform 4 >>> >>> [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] >>> >> I'm using Mixxx without controller without scratching and so >>on, >>> > just >>> >> simple crossfading with external mixer and so on. >>> >> I would also prefer the option to have the (almost) screen- >>wide >>> >> waveforms. I liked the 'old' 1.11 Latenight. Clearly that >>> > doesn't work >>> >> out for 4 decks. >>> >> >>> >> I think one should not clutter a skin with dozens of config- >>> > options but >>> >> better fork that skin (or decide for one, better, solution >>> > maybe). >>> >> >>> >> The option to get the bigLibrary is a real benefit for me >and >>> > results in >>> >> lesser need of a large library when everything is turned on. >>> >> >>> >> The only reason I have the mixer turned on is the crossfader >>and >>> > the >>> >> preview-Buttons. On my machine, in 4 and 2 deck mode without >>the >>> > mixer >>> >> there is some space where the mixxx logo is displayed. Would >>it >>> > be >>> >> possible to get the crossfader (and maybe the cue-buttons) >>> > there? That >>> >> would result in the big waveforms for me. >>> >> >>> >> Another option would be to make the waveforms (nearly) >screen- >> >>> > wide and >>> >> place pitch, EQ, Volume, Cue, on the left and right (as >pitch >>> > was in >>> >> 1.11). That would only leave crossfader, Master, Balance, >>> > HeadGain and >>> >> Pre/Main from the mixer-section what could eventually be >>placed >>> > like >>> >> proposed above where the mixxx logo is, in between of >>> > previewDeck and >>> >> maybe Mics. >>> >> [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck1] [Waveform 1] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck2] >>> >> [------------------] [Waveform 3] [------------------] >>> >> [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck3] [Waveform 2] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck4] >>> >> [------------------] [Waveform 4] [------------------] >>> >> [ Deck1 ] [ Deck2 ] [ Deck3 ] [ Deck4 ] >>> >> [PreviewDeck] [ Crossfade/Master ] [Microphones] >>> >> [Samplers] >>> >> [Effects] >>> >> [Library] >>> >> >>> >> I've done a quick sketch http://imgur.com/MruunAd >>> >> I've not rescaled anything except some little changes and >>this >>> > dosn't >>> >> get bigger than the current approach but gives much bigger >>> > waveforms. >>> >> >>> >> But I am unsure if this is out of scope for LateNight and >>should >>> > better >>> >> be done in an other skin. >>> >> >>> >> What do you think? >>> >> >>> >> Cheers, >>> >> Markus >>> >> >>> >> Am 08.06.2015 um 03:44 schrieb Be: >>> >>> I tested it and it helps, but adding these options feels >>like >>> > putting >>> >>> bandages on a bigger design issues that are not very easy >to >>> > solve. >>> >>> There are so many buttons for skin options at the top that >>it's >>> > kinda >>> >>> overwhelming. However, I think trying to implement better >>> > solutions to >>> >>> those design challenges would take a lot of effort that >>> > shouldn't delay >>> >>> 1.12. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed? >>> >>> >>> >>> [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck >toggle] >>> >>> [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2] >>> >>> waveform 1 >>> >>> waveform 2 >>> >>> waveform 3 >>> >>> waveform 4 >>> >>> [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4] >>> >>> >>> >>> On 06/06/2015 01:04 PM, Owen Williams wrote: >>> >>>> "thanks" as in, you tested it and it works well? I don't >>want >>> > to commit >>> >>>> without someone taking a look at it. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Sat, 2015-06-06 at 09:30 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 00:29:14 +0000 "Owen Williams" >>> >>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>> >>>>>> I've posted a PR for some new LateNight display options. >>> > I'm >>> >>>>>> definitely >>> >>>>>> running up against the limits of the skinning engine so >I >>> > can't do >>> >>>>>> a lot >>> >>>>>> more than this. But it makes it possible to >specifically >>> > select >>> >>>>>> the big >>> >>>>>> waveforms if you want them. It also makes it possible >to >>> > turn off >>> >>>>>> the >>> >>>>>> EQs to save some vertical space without eliminating the >>> > whole >>> >>>>>> mixer. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> Thanks:) >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Fri, 2015-06-05 at 05:16 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>>>> Owen, >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> That mockup was poorly thought out re: mixer, sorry. I >>> > never use >>> >>>>>> 4 >>> >>>>>>> decks :/ >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> If you aren't sick of my backseat driving yet, I just >>had >>> >>>>>> another >>> >>>>>>> slightly radical idea - make LateNight's library >"toggle >>> > only", >>> >>>>>> so >>> >>>>>>> that the "big library" button becomes the only way to >>see >>> > it. >>> >>>>>> This >>> >>>>>>> wouldn't inhibit my personal use style, and it would >>free >>> > the >>> >>>>>>> entire screen for controls. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Possibly a complimentary idea is to let the search >field >>> > remain >>> >>>>>> in >>> >>>>>>> the main window, and have "big library" open with the >>> > results, >>> >>>>>>> either as you type or after hitting enter. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Just for fun I've attached the Gimp .xcf layers I used >>for >>> > the >>> >>>>>>> mockup, which can be used in a paper-doll fashion. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> ~RAWRR >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:01:55 +0000 "Owen Williams" >>> >>>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> I think we should come up with some sort of standard >>> > effect >>> >>>>>> rack >>> >>>>>>>> template that all the skins can share (and theme as >>> > necessary) >>> >>>>>> but >>> >>>>>>>> I'm >>> >>>>>>>> not sure we can do that in time for release. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> There is currently not enough room for big waveforms >>and >>> > the >>> >>>>>> mixer >>> >>>>>>>> and >>> >>>>>>>> also 4 decks. At low resolutions, it's already >>impossible >>> > to >>> >>>>>> show >>> >>>>>>>> every >>> >>>>>>>> UI element, and the skin system is not flexible enough >>to >>> > allow >>> >>>>>>>> for >>> >>>>>>>> every possible combination of elements. So the design >>is >>> > a >>> >>>>>> best- >>> >>>>>>>> effort >>> >>>>>>>> at letting people choose a good layout. Ultimately if >>> > there's >>> >>>>>> a >>> >>>>>>>> skin >>> >>>>>>>> design you want that isn't possible, it may be >>necessary >>> > to >>> >>>>>> create >>> >>>>>>>> a new >>> >>>>>>>> skin for it. For a while I was maintaining LateNight- >>> > Wide, >>> >>>>>> which >>> >>>>>>>> had >>> >>>>>>>> all four decks horizontally and the waveforms at the >>top, >>> >>>>>> spanning >>> >>>>>>>> the >>> >>>>>>>> width of the screen. Maybe it's time to resurrect >>that. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 18:40 +0000, re- >>cy...@hushmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>> Owen, >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> I've been using the LateNight resizeable skin and I >>have >>> > a >>> >>>>>>>> couple >>> >>>>>>>>> of issues: >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Can we get a thing where the effects bank can >>optionally >>> > get >>> >>>>>>>>> minimized, possibly back to the simplistic dials >>existing >>> >>>>>>>>> previously? I'm running out of real estate on all of >>my >>> >>>>>> screens, >>> >>>>>>>> I >>> >>>>>>>>> don't currently have any hi-res ones. >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Related, I kind of hate being forced to choose >>waveforms >>> > vs. >>> >>>>>>>> mixer, >>> >>>>>>>>> and the loss of big waveforms in that skin to begin >>with. >>> > It >>> >>>>>>>> seems >>> >>>>>>>>> to me the reason they got 86'd was the effects bank >>> > mentioned >>> >>>>>>>> above. >>> >>>>>>>>> Didn't file a bug because this is just my >>> >>>>>> experience/preference, >>> >>>>>>>>> but thought you'd want feedback. >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> ~RAWRR >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:53:57 +0000 "Owen Williams" >>> >>>>>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 15:29 -0400, RJ Ryan wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> * skin polish (Jus has an active Deere branch) >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> The skins are in kind of bad shape at the moment. >>They >>> >>>>>> really >>> >>>>>>>>>> need >>> >>>>>>>>>>> polish to bring them to design bar that we set >>pretty >>> > high >>> >>>>>>>> with >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.0. >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> You mention skins are in a bad shape -- can you file >>> > bugs >>> >>>>>> for >>> >>>>>>>>>> issues you >>> >>>>>>>>>> know about? 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